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Concealing the Facts
Editorial of The New York Sun
February 2, 2007
In respect of gun control, we don't mind saying that it's not the issue that keeps us up at night. But as an emblem of the irrational streak in our political debate these days, it's without peer, a point about which we were reminded by the editorial in Tuesday's Times, "A Day Without Guns … ." It was arguing, if that's the word, against Florida's liberalized concealed carry laws. Basing its comments on research done by the Florida Sun-Sentinel that showed some criminals in Florida have gotten permits to carry concealed weapons, the Times decried the state Legislature's "gruesome handiwork." It chided the "corrupt and cowardly" legislators who refused to "undo these lethal threats" created by legal concealed carry.
Our first thought was that Floridians are grown-ups possessed of rational minds and capable of making their own laws without the Times' haranguing. This is what Floridians have done over the last two decades by repeatedly electing representatives who believe Americans have a right, vouchsafed in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, to keep and bear arms. It's a right that has been called the palladium of American liberty. But about what was the Times speaking with the claim that Florida's concealed carry laws are "lethal" and "gruesome"?
Since the Jack Hagler Self Defense Act went into effect in 1987, crime in Florida has gone down by almost every measure there is. According to statistics provided by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, firearm murders in Florida between 1987 and 2005 dropped in real terms to 521 from 697. Expressed as the number of firearm murders per 100,000 persons, the drop is even more dramatic, to 2.9 from 5.8. That's a change of 50%. The drop in violent crime overall is less precipitous but equally steady, including drops in the rates of murder, aggravated assault, robbery, and sexual assault.
It is difficult to argue that permitting more persons to carry concealed weapons in and of itself caused this drop in crime, although some have tried. Causal relationships of that nature are notoriously tricky to pin down, and the relationship between crime and concealed carry has been explored in academic circles for years, with little consensus. But it's even harder, given the statistics, to argue that legalizing the carry of concealed weapons has increased crime. Or that it has had some terrible adverse consequence.
Predictions of wild-West style shootouts and lawlessness have proven false. That's not what happened. Not in Florida or in any of the other 37 states with legalized concealed carry. There is nothing "lethal" or "gruesome" about permitting law-abiding citizens to defend themselves by carrying a weapon — or simply to carry a weapon without defending themselves. The truth is that if there is a lesson to be drawn from the Sun-Sentinel's reporting, it's not, as the Times suggests, that there is something wrong with existing laws. Rather it is that judges should start treating criminals as the law prescribes.
In Florida, the law on concealed carry allows persons who have committed serious crimes and have reached plea agreements with judges to have their records scrubbed, to become eligible once more to receive a concealed carry license. An ordinary person might expect an editorial writer opining on all this, particularly in a city where the mayor is trying to make an issue out of "illegal" guns, to look into the statistics on crime and include these facts in an editorial, if only to deal with them. But at the Times, they're not fit to print.
Reader comments on this article
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Dead On [40 words] |
Tim |
Feb 7, 2007 09:43 |
It's about time! [41 words] |
Kevin Chicwak |
Feb 6, 2007 10:47 |
Thanks for the honest perspective [106 words] |
Bill Garman |
Feb 5, 2007 09:51 |
Finally!!! [11 words] |
Cody Rehberg (crehberg) |
Feb 4, 2007 13:27 |
judicial system the problem [183 words] |
Christine Garcia |
Feb 4, 2007 11:29 |
NYC exMayor wants to be President? [134 words] |
Tom Irwin |
Feb 4, 2007 11:23 |
WOW --- Finally the truth [104 words] |
Bill P. (Flordia) |
Feb 3, 2007 19:53 |
Bravo for The New York Sun [258 words] |
Rogers L. Marshall |
Feb 3, 2007 12:27 |
Refreshing Honesty [225 words] |
David F Rothfuss |
Feb 3, 2007 10:23 |
The Hypocrisy [26 words] |
Yurt7 |
Feb 3, 2007 08:13 |
Brilliant! [79 words] |
Lysander Spooner |
Feb 3, 2007 07:49 |
Government Control vs. Gun Control [207 words] |
Charles Petrik |
Feb 3, 2007 02:21 |
↔ More prisons not more gun laws [81 words] |
BangStick |
Feb 3, 2007 17:10 |
Sun Makes Sense [72 words] |
John B. Thayer |
Feb 3, 2007 01:31 |
VERY REFRESHING ! [132 words] |
maintncman |
Feb 3, 2007 01:01 |
What Do You Expect from the NY Times [43 words] |
Martin W. Schwartz |
Feb 3, 2007 00:31 |
fresh air, the truth, and it ain't about hunting [134 words] |
joe |
Feb 3, 2007 00:02 |
Excellent piece [90 words] |
Nick Rust |
Feb 2, 2007 21:21 |
Truth or Consequences [51 words] |
Robert |
Feb 2, 2007 20:02 |
Great Article! [180 words] |
Bill |
Feb 2, 2007 19:07 |
Egads; A NYC Newspaper with an intelligent Gun Right/ Gun Control Editorial! [28 words] |
Larry Farrell |
Feb 2, 2007 18:03 |
concealing the facts [41 words] |
tinman |
Feb 2, 2007 18:01 |
Concealing the Statistics [125 words] |
James Morgan |
Feb 2, 2007 16:18 |
Thank you [41 words] |
Keith Pletcher |
Feb 2, 2007 15:51 |
A Day Without Guns? [219 words] |
Mike Glaser |
Feb 2, 2007 15:20 |
↔ It is in there, read it [141 words] |
Kevin M |
Feb 3, 2007 08:31 |
↔ well written [19 words] |
Mel Winegardner |
Feb 4, 2007 16:53 |
Bravo! Well Spoken But will not Convert the indoctrinated in the ant-gun crowd [296 words] |
Frank Tucker |
Feb 2, 2007 14:09 |
fight the good fight [35 words] |
Mike Schollmeier |
Feb 2, 2007 14:07 |
NYT Gun Lies [152 words] |
Pete Humm |
Feb 2, 2007 13:34 |
concealed carry [409 words] |
Kenneth Adams |
Feb 2, 2007 13:19 |
↔ I hope I never need it. [147 words] |
Dr Michael Giannone |
Feb 7, 2007 20:49 |
comment on verb vouchsafed [23 words] |
John Lewis |
Feb 2, 2007 13:18 |
I don't get it... [151 words] |
Voolfie |
Feb 2, 2007 12:46 |
Gun Control Laws vs Rights [93 words] |
Andrew Nelson |
Feb 2, 2007 12:28 |
When there is a right to carry the crime goes down. [52 words] |
ted zas |
Feb 2, 2007 12:16 |
Concealing the Facts [57 words] |
Edward Bath |
Feb 2, 2007 12:07 |
Just enforce current laws [124 words] |
Mitchel Kotula, Jr. |
Feb 2, 2007 11:29 |
Finally rational thought. [58 words] |
Mike Sieverding |
Feb 2, 2007 11:00 |
More guns = less crime [275 words] |
Jon Hochgesang |
Feb 2, 2007 10:18 |
Permit Holders are Not the Problem [198 words] |
Jim Fay |
Feb 2, 2007 10:16 |
↔ Bloomberg HAS NO CLUE [198 words] |
Nemo |
Apr 27, 2007 20:36 |
The Times versus Florida [88 words] |
Robert J. Yankow |
Feb 2, 2007 10:07 |
Response to Concealing the Facts Editorial [103 words] |
John Lewis |
Feb 2, 2007 07:28 |
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Mike Glaser |
Feb 2, 2007 09:41 |
↔ You Got It Right! [304 words] |
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