That is a powerful piece with which I agree wholeheartedly. I would ask though how many military deaths there have been overall, not just in Iraq, over the past four years.
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I find it funny how liberals have been using the deaths of the troops in Iraq or Afganistan to further... [MORE]
Jeff
Jan 24, 2008 00:57
It's funny that liberals are so bent over this comparison.
Apparently any troops who die in combat in Iraq or Afganistan... [MORE]
Jeff
Jan 23, 2008 13:38
The bottom line is George Bush numbers represent two wars in Afghan and Iraq. Not including the naval support of... [MORE]
Leonard Nichols
Nov 20, 2007 16:13
Please compare apples to apples.
YEAR TOTAL MILITARY TOTAL DEATHS
JIMMY CARTER 1980 2,159,630 2,392
RONALD REAGAN 1981 2,206,751 2,3801982 2,251,067 2,3191983 2,273,364... [MORE]
Ian Rey
Feb 26, 2007 11:17
I was with Hotel 2/5 USMC in Vietnam. Of the American 58,000 fatalities in around 11,000 were non-combat related.
If you... [MORE]
Al Treska
Mar 6, 2007 23:36
Well put. It's nice to see something other than leftist rants or left-leaning, selective reporting actually made the pages of... [MORE]
Danny J.
Feb 22, 2007 01:06
the prior specific criticisms of the blatant misuse of numbers in ms. colon's piece have made the point. such cowardly... [MORE]
howard reynolds
Feb 21, 2007 23:48
Great Article!!!! The Democrates will turn-tail and run from a situation or decision as always. Leaving our heros in a... [MORE]
Cliff
Feb 21, 2007 20:52
Point the first: Colon, in a response to Salon.com, refers to President Clinton as a "media darling." When Clinton's approval... [MORE]
Douglas Moran
Feb 21, 2007 20:39
Ms. Colon,
Do you remember Mark Twains' famous paraphrase of an English prime minister? Allow me to refresh your memory:
Figures often... [MORE]
Pete May
Feb 21, 2007 20:13
More than 3,100 deaths in Iraq. That doesn't include American troops killed in Afghanistan or in terrorist attacks outside Iraq.... [MORE]
T. Turner
Feb 21, 2007 19:25
Alicia - Your distorted statistics and your warped attitude have made you famous.
Do not drag patriotic American veterans such as... [MORE]
Timbuktom
Feb 21, 2007 18:24
The figure of approximately 3,100 US combat deaths in Iraq applies only to those killed by enemy action in Iraq.... [MORE]
Roger
Feb 21, 2007 23:36
I hate to inform you of this, or really I don't but those numbers do include the accidents and suicides.... [MORE]
Proud Iraqi Vet
Mar 10, 2008 23:12
It's amazing what drivel you can come up with when you do just enough research to forward your preconceived notion.... [MORE]
Gary Laney
Feb 21, 2007 16:48
I think this is one of the most patently intellectually dishonest things I've ever read. The figures cited in the... [MORE]
John
Feb 21, 2007 16:39
Thank you for thoughts from the other side. It is refreshing to have another perspective that has been researched and... [MORE]
Beth Dean
Feb 21, 2007 16:12
Dear New York Sun,
You owe readers like Shawn Mowry an explanation of how Alicia Colon counted military deaths during Clinton's... [MORE]
Andrew WK
Feb 21, 2007 15:28
Will you be heroic and courageous enough to write in your next column that the military death rate during the... [MORE]
Thomas Holaday
Feb 21, 2007 15:25
You have deliberately understated the number of American military dead during the four years 2003-2007.
You imply that Rep. John Murtha... [MORE]
Thomas Holaday
Feb 21, 2007 15:19
Alicia Colon is the coward here. A brave journalist might have tried to make the same points without using only... [MORE]
Aaron B
Feb 22, 2007 12:42
You are making an utterly meaningless apples and oranges comparison by citing the two sets of death statistics. The Clinton... [MORE]
Frank Flint
Feb 21, 2007 15:13
Almost all the deaths from '93 through '96 were either from illness, accident, suicide, or homicide. A total of 59... [MORE]
Christopher Kubasik
Feb 21, 2007 13:50
Dear Alicia,
Just a small amount of research shows that ONLY a total of FIFTY-NINE (59) casualties caused during the Clinton... [MORE]
edwin
Feb 21, 2007 13:42
Don't be cute. Only 59 died of combat related deaths. The rest were accidents, suicides, etc. This piece is shameless. [MORE]
Dan Craft
Feb 21, 2007 13:18
Your article is intellectually dishonest. Only 59 military deaths between 1993 and 1999 were the result of hostile action. The... [MORE]
Ellen Pitts
Feb 21, 2007 13:08
How does this HACK Alicia Colon still have a job?
What a laughable misrepresentation. Her comparison of "military deaths" in the... [MORE]
William Markley
Feb 21, 2007 12:44
Probably the most intellectually dishonest piece of reporting I have seen in a long time. You cannot simply compare wartime... [MORE]
Michael E.
Feb 21, 2007 12:39
If everybody would just go to the Defense Dept. PDF file from which you got your numbers, they would see... [MORE]
MB White
Feb 21, 2007 12:14
Alicia Colon,
That is a hell of an article, with a perspective which shows the greatness of this country on a... [MORE]
Dan Maguire
Feb 21, 2007 11:53
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Blair Glenn
Oct 18, 2007 16:22
According to a Lancet study, 655,000 Iraqis have died as the result of our invasion which is (by all informed... [MORE]
Bob Meinetz
Feb 21, 2007 11:08
You can believe whatever you want. You can pull any number out of the thin air you like. But when... [MORE]
Daniel J
Feb 22, 2007 01:26
A violent death is always a tragedy, even worse when it happens with a young person and much worse when... [MORE]
Pedro Soto
Feb 21, 2007 11:00
This article offers more appropriate context and history than the vast majority of current US Media headlines du jour. This... [MORE]
Andrew Maffei
Feb 21, 2007 10:20
Colon conveniently overlooks the fact that the military was much larger under in Clinton in the years 1992-1996. The military... [MORE]
Aileen Frankl-Toole
Feb 21, 2007 10:08
Can you please provide the sourcing for the number of military deaths cited from 1993 to 1996? Thanks. [MORE]
Matt
Feb 21, 2007 08:57
In response to Mr. Paul Gray's comments : Ms. Colon clearly states in the article she is only discussing the... [MORE]
Ben
Feb 21, 2007 08:18
I bet you made several enemies in the media with this piece. Thank you for sharing. I had no idea,... [MORE]
Darrell
Feb 21, 2007 07:50
What a stupid anaylsis. In the years you cite, 1993-1996 - 1 death was due to hostile action, 55 due... [MORE]
Paul Amirault
Feb 21, 2007 06:05
You are comparing all military deaths under Clinton (including accident, sickness and so on) to just combat fatalities in Iraq.... [MORE]
Christopher Allen
Feb 21, 2007 05:21
Who's counting? The author surely isn't - not correctly at least. The author compares apples and oranges: the number of... [MORE]
Joe Bartman
Feb 21, 2007 02:42
I'm curious as to your source for the deaths of military personnel over the various terms. I found the following... [MORE]
G George
Feb 21, 2007 01:50
Paul states that the numbers in the article don't include none war zone deaths. He's wrong!. The numbers stated in... [MORE]
T
Feb 21, 2007 00:46
I'll be watching your career with great interest. The world needs journalists like you, as I'm sure you're well aware.
-... [MORE]
Vincent
Feb 21, 2007 00:34
"Cowardly politicians who mock" the sacrifices of the troops? Followed immediately by reference to "Rep. John Murtha."
Last I looked, Murtha... [MORE]
Bryan Bohman
Feb 21, 2007 00:13
Alicia Colon writes: "What is never compared is the number of military deaths during the Clinton administration: 1,245 in 1993;... [MORE]
Brad Arington
Feb 20, 2007 23:54
According to the DOD document the author cites, TOTAL military deaths from ALL causes for the first 4 years of... [MORE]
Bruce Blazej
Feb 20, 2007 23:53
Even in the absence of combat, there are of course deaths among the hundreds of thousands of US military personnel... [MORE]
Jeffrey Harris
Feb 20, 2007 23:28
The "war dead" count does not include deaths outside of Iraq - YOU pretend that nobody is dieing in the... [MORE]
Paul Gray
Feb 20, 2007 19:02
I'm not the one blasting the Iraq dead figures to push any agenda. I use those 1993-1996 to show that... [MORE]
Alicia Colon
Feb 20, 2007 19:41
The media is presenting the Iraqi war deaths as a huge number, yet this number is almost the same as... [MORE]
Kirk DeWitt
Feb 20, 2007 20:12
I think Paul is on to something. Check out this link. [MORE]
numbrcheckr
Feb 20, 2007 23:52
Mr. Gray,
Your conclusion is wrong and arguement is fallacious. Go to the Department of Defense and do your research. Ms.... [MORE]
Dan Maguire
Feb 21, 2007 12:19
Paul, it goes deeper than that. Alicia fails to mention that the total death toll due to hostile enemies during... [MORE]
Derrick Blaga
Feb 21, 2007 13:37
I
I retired after 25 years in the Army and the numbers of dead reported are consistent with my experience. I... [MORE]
Tibor Lanczy
Feb 21, 2007 17:11
We'll call it the Colon Principle - The more we are at war "over there" . . . somewhere .... [MORE]
Al Tinsley
Feb 21, 2007 22:47
The Iraq numbers are not peace time numbers.I was in the military, I even photographed a lot of peace time... [MORE]
As a former paratrooper and combat medic in Vietnam, I am aghast that Alicia Colon mentions the draft dodgers of... [MORE]
John Hamill
Feb 20, 2007 15:48
You cite all military deaths during the first half of the Clinton administration, including deaths by accident, homicide, suicide and... [MORE]
Michael Cotter
Feb 21, 2007 07:57
I think that this is a great article. Until now I have never heard those figures with regards to the... [MORE]
Shawn Mowry
Feb 20, 2007 15:07
The following figures are current for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) as of December 2, 2006:
23,119 Wounded... [MORE]
John E. Kraft
Feb 21, 2007 00:01
Perhaps the ones who mock our courageous troops' sacrifices are the cowardly leaders who sent them in the first place,... [MORE]
Druce Vertes
Feb 20, 2007 12:53
Thank you for this wonderful piece. Please keep your voice rising loudly and clearly. Our country needs to hear these... [MORE]
Judi Vitale
Feb 20, 2007 12:45
That is a powerful piece with which I agree wholeheartedly. I would ask though how many military deaths there have...
Michael Zwick
Feb 20, 2007 12:43
Would someone care to be more specific as to WHERE these numbers of military death during the Clinton administration came... [MORE]
demtse
Feb 21, 2007 07:37
Great peice, well positioned. However, the problem these days is that facts and perspective don't matter to the main stream... [MORE]
JP LoBrutto
Feb 21, 2007 09:07
You are by and large counting non-combat deaths during the Clinton administration. The Bush adminstration does not count non-combat related... [MORE]
Heraldblog
Feb 21, 2007 10:25
Alicia, you are a treasure. Factual, direct, courageous and offering a full meal of facts to mull. And without relying... [MORE]
Bette Dowdell
Feb 20, 2007 12:31
Mr. Kroboth's view is one reason why every generation of my family has seen military service since the Revolutionary War.... [MORE]
Mary McLemore
Feb 20, 2007 10:58
The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing but The Truth.
Great Article, Enjoyed and Researched every word.
Thank You.
GBU, Vr
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rick d sears
Feb 21, 2007 06:37
What an absolute joke of an article. Apples to oranges data to suit an agenda...just appalling. And that people actually... [MORE]
Vance
Feb 21, 2007 16:00
This article reinforces something I have long said - There is indeed something worse than living in a country that... [MORE]
Roy E. Terrell
Feb 20, 2007 10:51
You are a breath of fresh air. Thanks for your comments. Some times I wish the decent Americans who do... [MORE]
Norm Bond
Feb 20, 2007 10:27
I am reminded by your piece of the words of John Stuart Mill, words that I have posted in my... [MORE]
Eric Mack
Feb 20, 2007 21:23
I couldn't have written anything I agree with more than what you have written.
I love the line...."America is good enough... [MORE]
Betty Wiggins
Feb 20, 2007 07:05
Only 56 of the 4417 military deaths in Clinton's first four years were in combat. The rest were mainly suicide,... [MORE]
Robert Cooke
Feb 21, 2007 00:21
If during the Clinton Administration were 4,417 deaths and during this administration just 3,133 then this one has a credit... [MORE]
Pedro Soto
Feb 21, 2007 12:38
As someone who has both a husband and a son currently serving in the US Military, I feel compelled to... [MORE]
K. Jossart
Feb 21, 2007 15:40
Dear K. Jossart,
Thank you so much for your post. In particular, these words:
"I question this administration's handling of Iraq BECAUSE... [MORE]