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Submitted by Norman Hanscombe, Sep 10, 2007 23:20

John's suggestion there was "no need to continue lend lease after 1944" is quaint. Unless the Soviet Union continued to carry the bulk of the fighting in 1945, Western losses could have become unacceptably hight -- -- -- not to mention that no rational Western leader could have risked fuelling Stalin's paranoia even further, by ending Lend Lease. Extending aid was in our own best interests.

Never forget the U.S. entered the Pacific War only after Tojo issued an unavoidable invitation. America became involved in Europe only after Adolph made the first move, sending Congress a declaration of war no rational nation could ignore. We in Australia had reservations about what the U.S. did in two World Wars. This in a country with relatively positive attitudes about America. Imagine how the U.S.S.R. (invaded in 1919 by Western Forces, and left to carry the overwhelming bulk of the struggle against Nazi Germany in W.W. II) would have seen such a betrayal? Even a non-paranoid Stalin would have reacted violently and unpredictably had Lend Lease been blocked in 1944. If Truman had been President in 1944, he'd never have acted so foolishly as to end aid at that point.

Russian participation was wanted in the Pacific (and wanted desperately) if only so that Stalin's unfortunate cannon fodder would continue to help reduce the Western body count. Even by 1945, no one expected the War to end before well into 1946. It's often overlooked, by the way, that Russia attacked Japan on precisely the day the Yalta timetable required them to do so. I remember how excited I was when it happened, because this would mean Dad mightn't be sent to Borneo, that Uncle Len could be released much sooner from the Japanese P.O.W. camp, and that far fewer Australians I didn't know were now less likely to die.

Ditto an even greater number of U.S. servicemen?


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