Aww - Reader comments at The New York Sun

Recent Editorials

Reader comment on:
Quinn's Supporting Cast Should Not Cost Him the Heisman
in response to reader comment: He didn't.

Submitted by Matt, Dec 11, 2006 12:58

Aww, is somebody a little sore that Brady Quinn didn't win...or even place second for the heisman? Troy won the big games, Brady didn't, enough said. Point to the Illinois game all you want, cause I would still rather have a QB that has pedestrian days against a weaker team but still pulls out the victory and knows how to step it up for the huge games and be close to flawless rather than a QB that knows how to play big against the armed forces teams and then is a choke artist on the bigger stage. You want to point out just stats, then fine, but Colt Brennan has Brady topped in that category, so either way Quinn loses the heisman trophy. I like how it is now a crime to give the award to a player on the #1 team. Since when can't the best player on the best team get the heisman? Take Smith away from Ohio State and they are not #1 ranked at the beginning of the season, so maybe you domers should look at it in that light. The team is #1 in the nation, because assumably, they have some of the best players in the nation, so this will get very tedious and boring if these complaints happen everytime someone on the #1 team wins a heisman because 1) It happens a lot and will continue to happen a lot and 2) It should come as no surprise because the #1 team in the country SHOULD have a player or two worthy of the heisman or else they DON'T go on a championship run. Get over this Brady getting gypped and move on with your life.

Note: Comments are screened, and in some cases edited, before posting. We reserve the right to reject anything we find objectionable.

Other reader comments on this article

Comment	By	Date
Let me start by saying that I am an ND grad, so my opinions of ND football are usually biased.... [MORE]	Dave	Jan 10, 2007 13:06
so the sugar bowl is almost over, anybody want to still say quinn deserved the heisman, under 200 yards thus... [MORE]	Matt	Jan 3, 2007 23:57
Couldn't agree with you more . . . NOW the Heisman is for the best player on the best team... [MORE]	Joanie	Dec 11, 2006 12:52
This article makes me want to wretch. Quinn sat there like a sad puppy while Ohio State's Troy Smith brought... [MORE]	JD	Dec 10, 2006 02:46
Notre Dame's porous defense helps Quinn. When every game you play is a 4 quarter game, there are many more... [MORE]	Chris	Dec 9, 2006 22:15
Mr. Barra--your article is dead on as it concerns this year's Heisman race. I think Quinn is and has been... [MORE]	TampaGator	Dec 8, 2006 17:52
are you actually the college football writer for this paper? did you watch these two teams this year? blame anyone... [MORE]	Scott	Dec 8, 2006 07:10
You missed the point of Barra's article. Hell, maybe you even missed the headline. The Heisman isn't a team award.... [MORE]	Lo-fi	Dec 8, 2006 10:22
Aww, is somebody a little sore that Brady Quinn didn't win...or even place second for the heisman? Troy won the...	Matt	Dec 11, 2006 12:58
Matt: Apparently you missed the entire point of the article. No one said that it was a crime for player on... [MORE]	TampaGator	Dec 11, 2006 18:06
8 words - Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Brady Quinn. Figure it out. [MORE]	John	Dec 7, 2006 11:17
It's true that Colt Brennan and Hawaii played an easy schedule - 118 out of 119. However, Ohio State's schedule wasn't... [MORE]	Burk	Dec 7, 2006 11:03
These are some of the craziest rankings I have seen yet! I would love to know that data that went... [MORE]	Ken`	Dec 12, 2006 13:56
It is clear who the best quarterback of the two are! Quinn put up more, with less, against better competition.... [MORE]	LC	Dec 7, 2006 08:25
Just look at the scores in the only games against top 25 teams they played this year....ND got thrashed and... [MORE]	Matt	Dec 9, 2006 21:41
Since this award should be based on what a player means to his team. Maybe the best way to compare... [MORE]	Jim DeFreeuw	Dec 7, 2006 08:17
Lets be honest wih ourselves.... The Heisman is not an MVP award for the player who is most valuable to... [MORE]	Myk	Dec 7, 2006 07:46
Myk...I agree in principle with all you stated except your last sentence. It is my understanding that the H trophy... [MORE]	Frank	Dec 7, 2006 10:43
Poise? Ability to scramble? Throw on the run? Hogwash. I find it incredibly interesting that you would fault Quinn in... [MORE]	Thomas	Dec 7, 2006 11:21
Rose to the occassion against Michigan, he did not quite play as well as you think, but he sure was... [MORE]	Patrick	Dec 7, 2006 16:07
Don't cash in your #1 overall pick and NFL sunday success just yet. If Smith shines under the immense pressure... [MORE]	Matt	Dec 10, 2006 23:01
"...let's see who is a higher draft choice and gets a larger contract to play on Sundays." What does that have... [MORE]	Ken	Dec 12, 2006 14:13
My point was simply this, both QBs are very talented but the previous comments were slanted in stating that Troy... [MORE]	Patrick	Dec 12, 2006 16:21
Matt, Matt, Matt, Do you really think the BIG money guys will draft TS ahead of BQ simply because of their... [MORE]	Frank	Dec 26, 2006 11:49
Great article. Brady is the best QB in the country and he should win the Heisman. It is also likely... [MORE]	Knute	Dec 6, 2006 22:55
The reason Troy isn't projected as a top-5 pick in the draft is only because of his height. It seems... [MORE]	McC	Dec 9, 2006 21:32
"The reason Troy isn't projected as a top-5 pick in the draft is only because of his height." Can I just... [MORE]	Dubs	Dec 17, 2006 09:31
McC, NFL players are Bigger, Faster, and Better. That includes Taller as a rule. Did someone say TS didn't deserve the... [MORE]	Frank	Dec 26, 2006 12:00
The fact that Troy doesn't go to Notre Dame shouldn't cost him the Heisman either moron. [MORE]	JumboWeiner	Dec 6, 2006 22:19
Against like opponets ( Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State) Quinn has thrown for 840 yards, 11 Td's, and 4( of... [MORE]	Lamo	Dec 6, 2006 21:58
And Brady's team got slaughtered by Michigan, and beat Michigan State on 4th quarter turnovers. Brady is a good QB,... [MORE]	Greg	Dec 10, 2006 08:00
Let me start by off by admitting that I am a die-hard ND fan. I totally agree with your logic... [MORE]	chris daily	Dec 6, 2006 21:52
People that say Brady Quinn is more important to his team just don't have all their facts straight. While Brady... [MORE]	Randy	Dec 6, 2006 21:06
Without Quinn we would have lost more games than that. We for sure would have lost to MSU, UCLA, and... [MORE]	Jonathan	Dec 10, 2006 09:20
Before you talk about panzies on the schedule, better check the Sagarin ratings for schedule strength, and you'll find that... [MORE]	schlictr	Dec 6, 2006 21:03
Oh yes, the NFL scouts have it right ALL the time, just look at Alex Smith, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf,... [MORE]	Matt	Dec 11, 2006 13:10
What about winning some of the games you played? Brady lost ever tough game he played, and he was part of... [MORE]	Jim Ellis	Dec 6, 2006 20:17
The award is named after a man who once coached a team that beat another team 222-0. it was 80-0... [MORE]	Terry	Dec 6, 2006 18:46
this isnt about notre dame its about quinn, their record has little to do with him, he had one bad... [MORE]	philly	Dec 6, 2006 18:07
Becasue he is the next coming of Charlie Ward! This is a discrace to the award. I am sick of the... [MORE]	Jim	Dec 6, 2006 17:57
It's staggering that there has not been a dissenting opinion on the shoo-in Heisman candidate among the talking heads for... [MORE]	Lo-fi	Dec 6, 2006 17:49
It's crazy to argue that troy smith had a better line than quinn purely based on sacks allowed. Troy is... [MORE]	Cole	Dec 6, 2006 17:02
I think the answer to the question is simple-- but if you're still confused, consider: a. Do you believe Brady Quinn... [MORE]	Patrick	Dec 6, 2006 17:01
The opposing defenses knew that Quinn was going to pass, they knew that ND couldn't run the ball and he... [MORE]	Rob	Dec 6, 2006 16:49
Quinn didn't have near the supporting cast of Smith. Both teams had games on their schedules that were not against... [MORE]	JD	Dec 6, 2006 16:37
My supporting cast was simply awful... seriously, no running game, no offensive line, in fact I was the only one... [MORE]	Jay	Dec 6, 2006 16:07
Your comments were fair and balanced, and I was impressed with the comparative records of each of these two very... [MORE]	Bob McCarthy	Dec 6, 2006 15:24
I find it funny that someone referred to ESPN as a hype machine for Troy Smith. Notre Dame is nothing... [MORE]	Matt	Dec 6, 2006 15:06
Saying that Colt Brennan should win the Heisman does nothing but disprove the whole argument that Quinn put up gaudy... [MORE]	Pat	Dec 6, 2006 15:53
You are blowing smoke I just can't figure out what kind of tobacco might be causing that smoke! Brady Quinn is... [MORE]	Ken	Dec 6, 2006 18:03
Notre Dame does not "create its own hype." It doesn't have to. Its a kickass school with the quite possibly... [MORE]	Joe	Dec 6, 2006 21:03
Your statemen that the reason Quinn was sacked more often is because of blockers is sophistry at best. Would one... [MORE]	Goberry	Dec 6, 2006 14:34
That line is a complete fallacy, clearly evident even to the most ardent of Troy Smith bandwaggoners. It is completely... [MORE]	T Money	Dec 7, 2006 11:28
Allen, I believe your article nails it right on the head in all topics mentioned and is certainly one of... [MORE]	Jim	Dec 6, 2006 14:30
You have hit the nail on the head. I always think of Paul Horning who won the Heisman when he... [MORE]	jerry	Dec 6, 2006 13:57
If the circumstances of these two players (i.e. team performance, records, individual stats, etc.) were reversed and Quinn was the... [MORE]	Mike	Dec 6, 2006 13:46
don't punish troy because he is on a more complete team. [MORE]	todd	Dec 7, 2006 08:53
Ok, well how do I put this, I think reading this artical you just fail to take Smiths career as... [MORE]	Chris	Dec 6, 2006 13:46
Why is anyone waisting their time with this issue. Both are good QBs in their own right. However the media... [MORE]	garvo	Dec 6, 2006 16:59
The article basically makes the samecomments that every other Notre Dame fan at the ESPN discussion board has made. This... [MORE]	Matt	Dec 6, 2006 13:43
I agree that Troy Smith has a good running offence and thats the reason why he hasnt passed as many... [MORE]	doug	Dec 7, 2006 01:52
Sounds like another bitter notre ame fan to me. Troy Smith will win the Heisman because he deserves it. He... [MORE]	Jason	Dec 7, 2006 03:10
What is amazing is that we are now going to give a Heisman to a player (Smith) who admitted to... [MORE]	Tim Regan	Dec 6, 2006 13:41
The genesis of Troy's campaign was the improvident evaluation of ND's dismissal of Willingham 2 years ago by John Saunders... [MORE]	NDNUT73	Dec 6, 2006 13:26
I love the comments that reference Smith's scrambling throw against Penn State and then compare how Smith did against Michigan.... [MORE]	Chris 2	Dec 6, 2006 12:47
Let Quinn have the Heisman. Troy Smith and the Buckeyes will enjoy the National Championship. [MORE]	Gregg	Dec 6, 2006 18:18
Great article Allen. You hit on the exact reasons for awarding the Heisman to Brady. The criteria you used to... [MORE]	Jim	Dec 6, 2006 12:47
Troy Smith had the award wrapped up before the season even started, thanks to the ESPN & ABC. They have... [MORE]	Brian Hale	Dec 6, 2006 12:35
You nailed it right on the head. Quinn ran for his life and was beaten severly in games and came... [MORE]	william	Dec 6, 2006 12:34
Its all about the best player in football that year, and most important to their team, which everyone has forgotten... [MORE]	Mark	Dec 6, 2006 12:25
Mark my words - Quinn will flop in the NFL and so will Smith. Smith is a product of hi... [MORE]	steve	Dec 6, 2006 12:23
Quinn was more critical to his teams success than Troy Smith, no doubt about it. OSU is better than ND... [MORE]	Charles Shinaver III	Dec 6, 2006 12:17
the guy has trouble throwing an accurate 5 yard crossing pattern with no pressure. i will take what's his name... [MORE]	bret	Dec 6, 2006 12:11
This article is one of the best fictions I have ever read. Against the highest ranked team that both have... [MORE]	JP	Dec 8, 2006 15:39
Where has Troy Smith been before football season 2006? Never even heard of him. Let's remember that the "best college... [MORE]	Ann	Dec 6, 2006 12:10
This is the problem with modern journalism, it is based completly on the writers opinion vs. the gathering of substantial... [MORE]	Rich	Dec 6, 2006 12:08
If you take Troy Smith away from tOSU, that team is STILL going to be a great, dominant team. Without... [MORE]	R-Dub	Dec 6, 2006 11:47
So, the self professed lover of ND, whose all time child and adulthood hero was Joe Montana, writes his second... [MORE]	tshade	Dec 6, 2006 11:44
Could it be? Or, just possibly, this is simply another example of the mindless sense of entitlement that domers have:... [MORE]	Chris	Dec 7, 2006 14:15
Great article although I'll admit I'm a big Irish fan. BQ was the shot in the arm that Domers needed... [MORE]	Frank	Dec 6, 2006 11:34
This is the absolute truth. Don't get me wrong, Troy is a better then average qb. But Even in Quinn's... [MORE]	Doug	Dec 6, 2006 11:13
You're taking Smith only if you have the rest of the OSU team! [MORE]	Wayne	Dec 6, 2006 11:11
Everything needs to be factored into for voting on a Heisman winner. The voters have forgotten all about this! [MORE]	Chris	Dec 6, 2006 11:07
Tim - Before you call someone stupid, maybe you should finish the article (stupid)! John - The answer lies in who... [MORE]	Wayne	Dec 6, 2006 11:06
I'm pretty sure that Quinn gave away two Michigan touchdowns when he threw an interception and then fumbled the ball,... [MORE]	James	Dec 6, 2006 11:05
I'm pretty sure that Brady's interception that you're talking about bounced right off the hands of his tight end, up... [MORE]	Randy	Dec 6, 2006 15:16
i live in ohio,and hear everyday from the local sports station,how great ohio state's qb is...If MR.quinn had the play-makers... [MORE]	R.E. Predieri	Dec 6, 2006 11:02
To read factual stats, for a change, rather then having to listen to prejudicial remarks of many, many across the... [MORE]	J Jordan	Dec 6, 2006 14:40
I agree that the Heisman has become a bit of a joke over the years. Your analysis that give Quinn... [MORE]	Terry Fox	Dec 6, 2006 10:57
Allen, Your article Quinn's Supporting Cast Should Not Cost Him the Heisman on December 6th is the most intelligent and... [MORE]	Disappointed Fan	Dec 6, 2006 10:55
How can you say Troy Smith is only as good as a dozen others at his position? That is Insane.... [MORE]	Ryan	Dec 6, 2006 10:54
Wins and losses would be all that mattered if Troy Smith and Brady Quinn were each one-man teams. However, the... [MORE]	Lo-fi	Dec 6, 2006 18:00
Regardless of missing out on all examples of other players who could be Heisman worthy, your article does bring up... [MORE]	Eric	Dec 6, 2006 10:52
Brady Quinn is without question, the best QB ever to play at Notre Dame....a school that has had 4 quarterbacks... [MORE]	jack barthel	Dec 6, 2006 10:47
Outstanding article. I have expressed and certainly agree with your assessment 100%. My argument all year has been that, yes... [MORE]	Kevin	Dec 6, 2006 10:38
Excellent article, now send it to the jokers at ESPN, Fowler, Corso, Mark May and the rest of the Troy... [MORE]	Moe Fortin	Dec 6, 2006 10:36
Very good article and right on the money. The award is not for the Quarterback on the #1 team. It... [MORE]	Joe R	Dec 6, 2006 11:06
Allen Barra, please don't tell me you are comparing T. Smith to the likes of Jason White, Chris Wnke, Danny... [MORE]	David	Dec 6, 2006 10:35
You are missing the point completely. Fact - OSU has at least 20 players who would be starters in any college... [MORE]	s	Dec 6, 2006 12:30
You couldn't possibly have seen any OSU or ND football games this year. I don't care about the statistics. If... [MORE]	John	Dec 6, 2006 10:24
If they were on the same team, Quinn would be the QB and Troy would be playing...safety. Quinn is going to... [MORE]	James	Dec 6, 2006 11:04
The NFL begs to differ.... Quinn is absolutely a better QB then Smith. Let's look back at your comments in... [MORE]	Pete M	Dec 6, 2006 12:47
If Troy Smith and Brady Quinn played on the same team, I would want Brady Quinn under center hands down.... [MORE]	Craig	Dec 6, 2006 13:28
The NFL can not produce one victory for ND,so exactly what is your point? [MORE]	Ken	Dec 6, 2006 19:55
Thank you for putting Heisman in the historic perspective. Quinn would win, if this were the sixties. Heck, it's a... [MORE]	Jamers Coombes	Dec 7, 2006 11:05
John hit the nail on the head! The only action he would see if he played for Ohio State would... [MORE]	Joe	Dec 7, 2006 12:21
IF QUINN, RAISED IN DUBLIN,OHIO, A COLUMBUS SUBURB, CHOSE TO GO TO OHIO STATE, SMITH WOULD BE PLAYING DEFENSE! [MORE]	ED CHRISTOPHER	Dec 6, 2006 10:22
As a Bucks fan I can tell you that we are glad Quinn chose ND and we have Smith playing... [MORE]	Jay	Dec 6, 2006 16:18
Mr. Barra, Congratulations on your fine article. As a lifelong Notre Dame fan, I would like to add one more point for... [MORE]	Tom Surber	Dec 6, 2006 10:16
Your observations backed up with reason and fairness is truly professional. It makes me wonder why the "national" commentators, especially... [MORE]	Johnn Trotter	Dec 6, 2006 10:09
you are exactly right, troy smith is over hyped and is not qualified to shine quinn's shoes. if both were... [MORE]	mike badarack	Dec 6, 2006 10:04
hahaha i think its hillarious how all u guys still think he should win the heisman this year. Everybody was... [MORE]	ryan	Dec 7, 2006 21:37
It's nice to see that someone else agrees that Quinn is an outstanding quarterback not just those of us here... [MORE]	Carie M	Dec 6, 2006 09:57
Allen-From your comments on the ridiculous primacy of the Heisman in this age of specialization to the notion that Troy... [MORE]	stan	Dec 6, 2006 09:57
Troy Smith, vs. Penn State: 12-22, 115 yds, 1 TD, 2 INTs Brady Quinn, vs. Penn State: 25-36, 287 yds, 3... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 09:55
Amnesia by convienience - You must have forgotten the Michigan comparison. Also, include a W/L chart now! [MORE]	JuJu	Dec 6, 2006 20:02
Great article. Personally I think this award has been so tarnished over the last 10 years that it has lost... [MORE]	Mark	Dec 6, 2006 09:51
If Brady Quinn had gone to Ohio State four years ago (and they were second on his list), he would... [MORE]	Garr Isacco	Dec 6, 2006 09:42
So much for the argument that Quinn deserved to win! [MORE]	Jay	Dec 10, 2006 04:28
thanks for an intelligent explanation regarding heisman winners. yes, i'm an irish fan, and i know brady quinn made some... [MORE]	gloria dillon+	Dec 6, 2006 09:38
To quote your lead-in: "Despite the fact that nearly every leading player in the country gets to play in a bowl... [MORE]	Vince	Dec 6, 2006 09:31
"Also you say he doesn't play defense... but I sure seem to recall him setting up the offenses of Michigan... [MORE]	Gary	Dec 6, 2006 11:58
Just to clarify to Vince, Quinn did not thrown an interception against USC. I think something else to note is the... [MORE]	Woody	Dec 6, 2006 11:59
Vince, to quote your conclusion: "Also you say he doesn't play defense... but I sure seem to recall him setting up... [MORE]	Reggie	Dec 6, 2006 12:21
I don't really care who wins the Heisman because it has become a bit of a joke, but I think... [MORE]	JD	Dec 6, 2006 12:39
Uhh Bowling Green? Norther Illinois? Cincinnati? and Illinois gave them all they can handle. I do not want to hear... [MORE]	Joe	Dec 6, 2006 12:57
Vince did you watch the games? You obviously did not watch either USC or UM games. 2 of the picks... [MORE]	Tim Regan	Dec 6, 2006 13:51
Thank you Mr.Barra! Finally someone has seen the obvious.Hopefully,all the voters will read this article prior to casting their ballots. [MORE]	Mark	Dec 6, 2006 09:28
Brady in my opinion did a much better job running an offense with fewer skilled positions. You might say he... [MORE]	ed Naufel	Dec 6, 2006 09:25
Perhaps the best gauge of their Heisman worthiness would be to have Smith and Quinn change teams. Would Smith have... [MORE]	Bill	Dec 6, 2006 09:18
Brilliant Article. [MORE]	Bryan	Dec 6, 2006 08:45
Great article; great analysis. Quinn has played with a lower quality of talent on his team, and has made them... [MORE]	Lorne	Dec 6, 2006 08:39
Troy Smith will be a decent CFL Quarterback while Brady Quinn will be a star in the NFL! [MORE]	Ray	Dec 6, 2006 08:27
Finally someone is thinking with their head and not their ***. The author is correct in his thinking. His thoughts... [MORE]	David Kuner	Dec 6, 2006 08:24
The notion that Troy Smith was sacked fewer times than Brady Quinn solely because the Buckeyes have a more effecrive... [MORE]	Mark Ira Kaufman	Dec 6, 2006 06:25
You have a point that Smith's elusiveness has helped him to have lower sack statistics than Brady Quinn, after all... [MORE]	ndstoehr	Dec 6, 2006 13:01
You have just proven that someone who has never played a sport at the level being discussed should not express... [MORE]	Stephen Browning	Dec 6, 2006 05:09
Mr. Browning, There is no need to insult ND and their coach with name calling. It's pretty obvious where you... [MORE]	Mike M	Dec 7, 2006 09:05
I am assuming that you played college football, but it is apparent that the fact that you are an athlete... [MORE]	ndstoehr	Dec 7, 2006 16:30
Your argument suggests someone other than Smith or Quinn should win the award. Such as Brennan. You give absolutely no... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 02:20
First off, I agree with the author that the Heisman Trophy has morphed to an extent that downplays the accomplishments... [MORE]	rjm09	Dec 6, 2006 13:44
I watched almost every game of Smith living in Ohio and he is great, but who cares if he makes... [MORE]	Tim Regan	Dec 6, 2006 14:01
I look at it this way. Would Notre Dame be the same team without Brady Quinn? The answer of course... [MORE]	Brad K	Dec 6, 2006 17:07
Smith had less rushing yards this year because he had time. He scrambled less. He had more time. He was... [MORE]	Brian	Dec 6, 2006 19:05
"The primary knock on Quinn is that his team lost to Michigan and USC by a combined total of 46... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 02:13
"What about pass blocking? Here Smith had a substantial boost over Quinn: His offensive line allowed him to be sacked... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 02:11
"Against slightly tougher opposition, Quinn performed at the same level of effectiveness as Troy Smith" How did Brady fair against Michigan?... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 02:09
"Thirty-five or 40 years ago, Brady Quinn of Notre Dame (no. 11) would be a clear favorite for the Heisman... [MORE]	Tim	Dec 6, 2006 02:06
So what exactly do you disagree with? He played against equal competition and had a supporting case substantially below that... [MORE]	Rob	Dec 6, 2006 09:15
There are few sportswriters who will admit in public to the foolishness that has become the Heisman trophy. The sad... [MORE]	John	Dec 6, 2006 09:18
Clot Brennan may have the numbers...but he played no one. I would like to see how well he would fair... [MORE]	Fernando	Dec 6, 2006 09:19
While I admit up front that I am a Domer, I agree that the NC QB is likely to win... [MORE]	Sean	Dec 6, 2006 09:21
He's not just putting stock in pure numbers. He is looking at the players' statistics, within the context of who... [MORE]	Brian	Dec 6, 2006 09:22
Obviously, Tim, you didn't read past the first page. Hawaii played the 101st toughest schedule and threw the ball 70... [MORE]	Jeff	Dec 6, 2006 09:29
It's not about just stats (as you clearly would know if you'd read the rest of the article), but level... [MORE]	JimBo	Dec 6, 2006 10:14
If you look at the total of Brady Quinn's accomplisments, there is no contest. To say nothing of the questions... [MORE]	RM	Dec 6, 2006 10:33
Tim. You are overlooking on intangible. Brady Quinn shaves his arms. That should automatically push him ahead of Troy Smith... [MORE]	Chris	Dec 6, 2006 10:38
The ROCKET finished 2nd to Ty Detmer of B.Y.U. Another waist of the Heisman hardware [MORE]	jim 41	Dec 6, 2006 11:46
Rocket finished runner-up to Ty Detmer for the Heisman. [MORE]	Mark	Dec 6, 2006 12:52
Great exposition of a take on the whole Heisman meaning and voting process that likely escapes most who follow CFB.... [MORE]	mike	Dec 6, 2006 13:32

Comment on Quinn's Supporting Cast Should Not Cost Him the Heisman

Would You Like to Become a Sustaining Subscriber of the Sun? Sign up now

* Inquire about the Sun Seminars

Sustaining Subscriber Login

Follow The New York Sun

Buy China Wholesale Products on DHgate.com

For Vegas Show tickets, shop ShowTickets.com

Made-in-China.com

Planning an Orlando Vacation? Visit Best of Orlando!

© 2002-2012 TWO SL LLC, New York, NY. All rights reserved.
Use of this site signifies your agreement to the Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.