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Submitted by Michelle Bergey, Dec 16, 2006 10:51

There are many reasons why US students start lagging behind other countries in math starting about in the 8th grade...the least of which is the Ed schools everyone loves to blame. (After blaming the teachers themselves, of course). First of all, our students hold their own in the elementary grades. In many other countries, students start to become "tracked" at that point. The higher students move on to the higher tracks, and the lower students go into a voc ed, or other, track. We have a different philoshophy in the US: We think all citizens should have a crack at a college education. And while a representative selection of ALL of our students take these international tests, just the select "high track" students in other countries take it. This year alone, thousands of extremely high SAT scoring students, many with PERFECT SATs, will be turned down for spots at Harvard, Yale, UC Berkeley, etc., because there are TOO many of them and not enough spots. And yes, the majority of them are coming from public schools. This piece of information taken alone could be used to jump to the opposite conclusion - TOO MANY kids are qualified for college! Stop pontificating and generalizing all public schools and all teachers and all ED schools and look around you - there are teachers in the US making great strides with students from all walks of life. Why not focus on the successes and get others to emulate them, rather than narrowly citing one statistic and claiming that the sky is falling.

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Would you ask a Pilot to teach and guide your Dr? Or vice versa? Who are the teachers of mathmatics?... [MORE]	koby Gutterman	Dec 18, 2006 18:51
As long as the "Mathematically Correct" community and authors such as Andrew Ferguson keep the ignoramous name calling and idiotic... [MORE]	Steve	Dec 18, 2006 10:50
Very well written. Good presentation of the facts. Thanks. [MORE]	B. Hammerand	Dec 16, 2006 07:50
I find it sad that criticism of the American educational system is rampant (based upon standardized test scores I... [MORE]	Dori Billows, PhD	Dec 15, 2006 11:44
Both the New York Times and Andrew Ferguson haven't gotten it wrong. They pulled a quick and easy conclusion from... [MORE]	John Tapper	Dec 15, 2006 11:23
Although you make a good argument concerning the lack of preparation of teachers, your knowledge of math curricula is much... [MORE]	Steve	Dec 15, 2006 10:53
There is a huge gap in the learning about teaching and the actual practise of teaching diverse populations at differeing... [MORE]	Rose Snyder	Dec 15, 2006 09:14
The standards are definitely too low in teacher education programs. As well, in many places, the emphasis is on research,... [MORE]	Laird Bracken	Dec 15, 2006 09:03
Here Andrew Ferguson passes along more ignorant gossip about mathematics teaching and learning. The NCTM publications Agenda for Action in... [MORE]	Finlay McQuade	Dec 15, 2006 02:09
Two Gates Foundation reports essentially corroborate this opinion piece. "Rigor, Relevance, and Results: The Quality of Teacher Assignments and Student... [MORE]	Kris Alman	Dec 14, 2006 21:31
..."By the time they reach eighth-grade, American students trail their counterparts in most of the developed world" One must ask,... [MORE]	K. Baker	Dec 14, 2006 21:27
Mr. Ferguson, As I read through your article, I realized how little "rubber on the road" you have in an... [MORE]	Cleo Burgett	Dec 14, 2006 20:43
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Either Mr. Ferguson didn't read the studies he purports to explain to us or his need to promote his limited... [MORE]	J. Michael Bodi	Dec 14, 2006 15:20
Mr. Ferguson asserts that today's math ("fuzzy math" or "reform math") is easier to teach than the more traditional, drill-and-memorize... [MORE]	Lana Stone	Dec 14, 2006 14:21
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As a former teacher of mathematics, a former teacher of teachers of mathematics, and a former school district administrator, I... [MORE]	Tonya Urbatsch	Dec 14, 2006 19:34
The following is a huge answer to why students are not ready for college. They have been taught very little... [MORE]	Danaher Dempsey	Dec 15, 2006 09:41
When I took my GRE (ages ago) and went to the college office to receive my results, the secretary remarrked... [MORE]	Augusta Bartlett	Dec 15, 2006 10:43
There are many reasons why US students start lagging behind other countries in math starting about in the 8th grade...the...	Michelle Bergey	Dec 16, 2006 10:51
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