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Submitted by Jerzy Kaltenberg, Dec 22, 2007 05:14

To quote: "...question of how one avoids ethnocentrism without also collapsing into a toothless cultural relativism that remains mute to the persecution of women, homosexuals, and others, is a very serious one. Claiming, as Mr. Warraq does, that it is Said who paved the way for the Arab world to cry victim and hide cruel persecutions behind those tears is both reductive and historically inaccurate." Indeed, the notion of logic is an inimical one for the apologists. You make mr. Warraq's point for him re: "...The argument is reductive insofar as it denies the long and continuing history of Western involvement...." ---- thus whining is considered to be a valid proof of not whining? This is a gloss, of course, but other flagrant inanities aside ( viz. toothless cultural relativism - please read Orwell's Politics and the English language ) , the persistent whining of the apologists for the inherent and inexcusable cruelty of the Arab world towards its own denizens reminds one of similar behaviour practiced by the western apologists of Stalinist purges and the American & Brit supporters of the nazi regime.


mr Warraq's work merely touches on the excuse used by the apologists of said behaviour and THAT alone is enough up the dander of some, even if in the process they validate mr. Warraq's thesis....


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