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Submitted by Civilised Kenyan, Jan 24, 2008 07:08

THE RIGGING STORY The international media especially in the EU has taken an offensive position against our nation I am saddened that we have all fallen for the allure of ODMs "truths". Dear Kenyans, Evaluate the rigging claims for yourselves! Meaning that even the dead, the unborn and the terminally ill in hospitals voted in Luo Nyanza and Rift Valley! Trust PNU to be fast asleep as this happened at the polling stations! At that meeting, ODM realized that from this audit, upon revisiting all the 210 constituencies with all the relevant documentation that Kibaki had won. Despite all their rigging and tribal inferences, ODM were out! Ruto rushed to deliver word to Raila who went to a press conference late morning. He came out before results were released and said that he does not want to pull off an Abiola (Research on Abiola) and does not want to resort to turning Kenya into an Ivory Coast ! He implied he would not accept defeat of any sort. He also told his supporters to be calm until the announcement. This was to give them a signal to cause chaos upon announcement. Later, Raila walked into KICC guerilla style. He walked thru the plenary hall where everyone else was seated and stormed into the ECKs private chambers. With his entourage, they blockaded the ECK from leaving the room to announce results! This took place for hours all the time he was coercing the ECK to do what he wanted. When it wouldn't work he went outside to address a press conference rejecting anything that the ECK would announce! Upon his re-entry into the plenary hall ECK arrived and Kivuitu began his announcement of the results from molo. Kibaki led in that constituency. Raila himself literally converged on Kivuitu as Ruto began to involve himself in physical confrontation. GSU had to step in and escort the ECK out as Ngilu tried to grab onto Kivuitu and stop him from leaving. Why was everyone including the media get thrown out? Some press members comprised a large group of hecklers that were a big part of the planned ODM chaos. They had to be removed! ECK went to the VIP room and with official observers and KBC announced the result. Another question, why did the ECK take so long to announce even when they knew the winner? First, delayed results, second, ODM interference. The third thing is here. While the agents were at the ECK for the meeting last night, the results were apparent and Kibaki had won. His agents reported back to him. Kibaki asked ECK to stall the announcement so as to allow for the army to assemble at the barracks and go into red alert as well as to position the police countrywide! This also allowed time for the CJ to be taken to statehouse early. A vacuum at such a time could result in military rule if there is civil strife! Kibaki was thus quickly sworn in. Raila also wanted to call on a million plus supporters to stream into Uhuru Park where he would be pronounced president and sworn in separately. The govt took action. It blocked all live broadcasts to avert this coup attempt. The lack of media has enabled the govt to keep out inflammatory messages that will cause worse strife. Kikuyu in Eldoret have been killed like nonsense. In Kisii migori, after the results came out, ten people killed in less than 15 mins. In Rift, Kalenjins are killing each other. In one estate they burnt house after house while throwing people out into the street and killing them. A friend's house was in that estate. Her whole family, kalenjins, regretted voting for Raila and giving him the mandate to cause chaos. She said that it might be her last day as all her neighbors were out on the street dead! Kikuyu homes and businesses have been burnt to a crust in all slums. The Luo have destroyed their own home in Kisumu and now Kibera is all on fire! All this for the selfish ambitions of Raila! He called them out as he followed **** Morris strategy to the letter! Kenyans chose Kibaki. He is a national figure! He had over 25% in 7 provinces and even 17% in Nyanza and Raila had that in only 6 provinces and in central and eastern he had just 2% and 5% respectively. Most impressively Kibaki got a large tally of votes in Western, North Eastern and Coast! We need to unite at this time to refuse militant rulers in our country who refuse to follow the rule of law and will take power by force. He blatantly dismissed the laws of Kenya in Sunday morning's press conference by saying he does not care for the courts and will not set foot there to settle his grievances! He has chosen to use force and the blood of Kenyans to seize power! We refuse! We pray against it! He cannot deny us 10 million Kenyans who turned up, stood for seven and a half hours and even lost our IDs to exercise our constituitional right! We are here and we are together as peace loving KENYANS. Join us in solidarity. We love Kenya too much to see such abuse of our laws and unity! As for the EU, I take a stand to publicly denounce them. Their comments are based on their own selfish vested interests in this country. The fact of the matter which u all know is that the EU has been a loser throughout the five years Kibaki has ruled! They have lost billions of Euros in trade to the Far East and they are not happy about that at all. * Fact: Kenya engages with China for a large majority of its trade which was previously monopolized by the EU. * Fact: Kenya has given over 90% of all its contracts to China for infrastructure! * Fact: Kenya is no longer dependent on the donor funding to draw up its budget! Kenya relies on local revenues for 95% of its budget with the other meagre 5% shared out between donor funds from China, EU and US. In comparison Tanzania and Uganda draw up 78% and 88% respectively of their budgets from donor funding. The donor community is full of sharks that use donor money to siphon trillions out of their own economies! * Fact: Kenya has been the torch bearer for the rights of African and Pacific nations to have fair and unbridled trade with the EU. They are making ALOT of progress. EU has gained nothing from Kibaki's administration and wants him to go! They want us eating out of their hands like we did in Moi's time. This is neo-colonialism! Divide and conquer. It has happened in too many African countries for us to be blind here in Kenya ! We refuse EU control of our Nation! They want to turn us against ourselves so as to take strategic positions in the process. They are looking for ethnic cleansing and genocide to overrule Kenya . Never! Kenyans, open your eyes, the war is not within but with those around us! THE PROPHECY WE ALL IGNORED - IS IT RIGHT AFTER ALL? A globally reputed prophet had on the morning of September 30th 2007, foretold on his website that President Mwai Kibaki would be re-elected(among other 30 highlights on Kenya) Many who saw the posting brushed him aside, he had also foretold of chaos after the election...now we just cannot ignore him any more. In the prophesy posted on the link http://www.thomasmanton.com./prophecies/index.php?ctr_id=110&cnt_id=2, the prophet remains optimistic that Kenyans will recover from the current crisis and that the nation will have more airlines, a booming tourism industry and great development projects. He says that the military and the police will play a key role in containing the current crisis and will succeed in restoring order. THOSE who voted for Kibaki are NOT KENYANS? The impression created by the term "Kenyans have spoken" is that only those who supported a certain candidate are Kenyans. My understanding is that those who voted for Hon. Odinga - the MP-elect for Langata, are Kenyans. I am further of the understanding that those who voted for President Kibaki and MP-elect for Othaya are Kenyans. I am even further convinced beyond doubt that another 20+ million people in Kenya who did not vote for either of the two are Kenyans too. Even if Hon. Odinga got one vote, while President Kibaki got 17 Million votes that one vote for Odinga is from a Kenyan. If President Kibaki got one vote and Mr. Odinga got 10 million, that one vote for Kibaki is from a Kenyan. It is this kind of selective application of terms and situations that is in part fueling the animosity we are seeing. We are hearing of rigging elections by President Kibaki, but we are not being told why Mr. Odinga's brother - Mr. Oburu Odinga, was elected in a constituency that returned a 102% voter turnout. A 102% voter turnout is rigging, my friends. Rigging is rigging. Mr. Odinga is a Kenyan and his supporters are Kenyans. President Kibaki is a Kenyan, and his supporters are Kenyans. The most pressing thing right now is for leaders in both sides of the divide to realize that life is so sacred, that there is no ambition whatsoever that is worth killing people over. How would Hon. Odinga and President Kibaki feel if those were their children, sisters, brothers, mothers or fathers that were burned while taking refuge in a church from FELLOW KENYANS? The time is NOW for Hon. Odinga to go on national TV and radio and categorically tell his KENYAN supporters to cease the wanton taking of lives and destruction of property. The buck stops with him. It is his supporters (and those loaned to him by Ruto) that are rioting and committing genocide.

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you are kikuyu. [MORE]	davids	Feb 27, 2008 10:30
What on earth does that have to do with Obama??! The connections you are attempting to draw are so far... [MORE]	N	Feb 6, 2008 18:03
Odinga said that United States, France, Italy and Spain have urged him not to surrender. He made the comments on... [MORE]	annonymous	Feb 4, 2008 14:12
Do you have faith in the Judicial system? do you have faith in Kenya's institutions? Have you been living under... [MORE]	Justice in Kenya- will bring peace	Feb 6, 2008 09:44
Kikuyus, Indians or whatever tribe or class have a right to live whereever they wish to in Kenya. If they... [MORE]	annonymous	Feb 7, 2008 10:33
THE LAW OF GOD IS APPLICABLE TO ALL. WHETHER EARTHIEST, MUSLIMS, HINDUS, EVEN THOSE WHO DO NOT RECOGNISE HIM AT... [MORE]	jecinta	Feb 12, 2008 04:59
There are obviously several injustices that were carried out against the people by the elite, Kikuyu, Luo, Kalenjin... but to... [MORE]	Maina Ogeto Kimutai	Feb 12, 2008 09:23
look at this in the context that the previous and the current president's of kenya are now in one team..then... [MORE]	Timex	Feb 21, 2008 05:31
German Brown Shirts disrupted society until Hitler was appointed chancellor. Same in Kenya. Odinga will disrput society until he gets... [MORE]	randy stein	Mar 6, 2008 16:11
Odinga said today that he has "fall back plans" if peace talks fail. I am paying heed to his words... [MORE]	annonymous	Feb 3, 2008 11:39
Yes to your last question [MORE]	jona4good@yahoo.com	Feb 5, 2008 02:58
Mr Odinga think again &again of what you are doing to your fellow Kenyans. Think future. [MORE]	Nyahururu	Feb 1, 2008 12:08
I if we had people like you in western media we could not have gone that berserk with killing .... [MORE]	Essy njenga	Feb 1, 2008 09:50
"The established democracies are accepting flawed and unfair elections for political expediency, Human Rights Watch said today in releasing its... [MORE]	Ray	Feb 1, 2008 07:10
There is disturbing news in the press that the Kikuyu may be starting to proactively attack the Luos. It is... [MORE]	John Smith	Jan 31, 2008 20:34
While self-defence is a natural justice, Kikuyus should not go killing. They can set themselves to win in a different... [MORE]	Geni	Feb 2, 2008 02:57
Thanks, John Smith! You have spoken like a true Kenyan. Even if you sound like a scared Luo. But remember... [MORE]	Dave	Feb 12, 2008 09:47
This really worries me that we are just 4 days out of a MAJOR U.S. election and NO ONE IN... [MORE]	Nancy	Jan 31, 2008 16:44
Yesterday at the African Union summit, the top U.S. envoy reported that investigations have revealed that the ethnic cleansing was... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 31, 2008 10:47
This is a man whose world is full of unfairness immediately he loses.He doesnt support development and its a pity... [MORE]	Chiwana	Jan 30, 2008 13:28
To all Kenyans who may be reading this, we have gone beyond Raila and Kibaki it is time to change... [MORE]	Maurice O	Jan 28, 2008 14:48
I totally agree with you Maurice, We Kenyans have sank so low and put our lives in the line for... [MORE]	Mercy	Jan 29, 2008 04:54
Why do we need to to gang up against anyone, I think its very clear that the fights going on... [MORE]	Lilian M	Jan 29, 2008 09:08
I agree with the comments made by Mercy and Maurice. There is chaos all around and tit for tat killing... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 29, 2008 15:53
Thanks Daniel Johnson for this article. I believe that each candidates affiliations, particularly the more recent ones, are worth considering... [MORE]	Concerned Kenyan	Jan 26, 2008 06:07
Raila is a true son of Africa who has given his life for Kenya many at times.He can only be... [MORE]	Noel	Jan 26, 2008 00:06
Sorry sir I disagree! He (Raila) has no place for likes of Nelson Mandela. [MORE]	Will	Jan 26, 2008 10:03
Please check out the link below. http://hrw.org/ [MORE]	Will	Jan 27, 2008 15:36
Dear Kenyans, As the facts begin to come out it is becoming apparent that the post election violence was preplanned. There... [MORE]	Ciku	Jan 25, 2008 23:27
we could spend eternity throwing blame back and forth but that will not sort out the mess as it. both... [MORE]	pauline	Jan 25, 2008 12:16
Sure, allegations of rigging were expressed on both sides, but its not factual that odm agreed there was rigging on... [MORE]	Will	Jan 26, 2008 09:56
I am a Kenyan in Englang and I do not belong to either the Luo or Kikuyu tribe but im... [MORE]	LILIAN M, ENGLAND	Jan 25, 2008 06:20
No one denies tribalism exists and will be with us for a long time. All we want is justice regardless... [MORE]	Will	Jan 26, 2008 00:24
It's no secret that Senator Obama has ties with Kenya and with Mr. Odinga, but that does not dictate his... [MORE]	Lilian M, England	Jan 25, 2008 05:55
Lilian, you say you don't want to take sides but you obviously already have. There are those who believe that... [MORE]	Living in Kenya	Feb 5, 2008 04:53
It is encouraging to see that there are people out there who can see through the lies and propaganda being... [MORE]	Anna W	Jan 24, 2008 08:23
Here's a link to the Human Rights Watch view on the violence in the Rift Valley province:- http://hrw.org/english/docs/2008/01/23/kenya17859.htm [MORE]	Ray	Jan 24, 2008 18:02
THE RIGGING STORY The international media especially in the EU has taken an offensive position against our nation I am...	Civilised Kenyan	Jan 24, 2008 07:08
The international press and the international community are pre-occupied with the results of the recently concluded elections in Kenya while... [MORE]	Peaceful Kenyan	Jan 24, 2008 07:00
Thursday 24th of January 2008, must have been one of those daysthat we as Kenyans felt good to be in... [MORE]	mercy	Jan 25, 2008 04:00
I refuse to fight for so-called leaders who clearly care nothing about me, the common mwananchi. As we speak, they've... [MORE]	Ray	Jan 23, 2008 09:10
I have read most of the comments and I cant help but boil with anger.I realize that the problem of... [MORE]	Mkenya mzalendo	Jan 23, 2008 01:38
Raila should stand up and apologise to the whole world and more so to his tribe Luos for leading us... [MORE]	Jane	Feb 1, 2008 16:35
The situation in our country is alarming and i feel that Raila should stop the issue of demonstrations and follow... [MORE]	KERRY	Jan 22, 2008 09:00
Let's keep this page for when all is said and done, the Kenyan people will demand justice against all these... [MORE]	Distressed Kenyan	Jan 24, 2008 06:55
1. I am surprised that the western diplomats and the press that is reporting about the state of the Kenyan... [MORE]	Fr. Gabriel Muteru	Jan 22, 2008 02:18
Thank you Father Muteru. You are a man of God and you spoke the truth. If anyone is listening please... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 23, 2008 10:43
I agree with your analysis of what of going on in Kenya. I am so frustrated with people who think... [MORE]	Wamucii Njogu	Jan 23, 2008 12:05
It seems that Kibaki and a few of his staunchest followers have a messaianic syndrome. They seem to think that... [MORE]	thumbi	Jan 23, 2008 15:56
Which foreign observers have ruled the elections free and fair? So far not one has come forth and agreed to... [MORE]	Geo Pro	Jan 24, 2008 13:27
Kenyans are spiritually starved and that is why they are doing what they are doing. Kenyan religious leaders are to... [MORE]	Kipkemboi	Jan 24, 2008 23:10
Hello Fr,Thank you for the article. I will not give my comments as these matters are still very raw and... [MORE]	A Kenyan who has visited the Camps	Jan 25, 2008 05:17
All you said is true we should help each other regarless of their status in times of trouble God help kenya... [MORE]	tabitha	Jan 28, 2008 07:38
I thank you for the well informed though short article. Your accuracy in inference is impressive. I think Americans have... [MORE]	maingi	Jan 21, 2008 23:07
Thank you Mr.Johnson for the the facts that everybody needed to know.The re-election of president Kibaki was in a prophecy... [MORE]	mbugua	Jan 21, 2008 21:35
Reading through the papers today one is left wondering is Raila really in control of ODM? In one instance he... [MORE]	NIKI	Jan 21, 2008 07:48
Come on Niki don't be naive..the only reason why everyone in the world but a few direct beneficiaries of the... [MORE]	timex	Feb 21, 2008 06:32
infact the journalist is so correct ,you would think he is kenyan. congrats and dig more on raila coz he... [MORE]	eunice	Jan 21, 2008 04:56
Every Kenyan and American of each and every political clime must wonder at the absurdity of this article. Finding a... [MORE]	McOlsen	Jan 21, 2008 02:45
The article on Raila Odinga is very accurate, but I wish to add some two facts. First, in an interview... [MORE]	Ndungu	Jan 25, 2008 04:14
Mr. Daniel Johnson, You have obviously gone the extra mile to paint Kenya's Mr. Odinga as an islamo-fascist, then proceed... [MORE]	McOlsen	Jan 21, 2008 02:33
- Muslims in Kenya have been given the same rights as every other Kenyan. Kenya is full of mosques where... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 22, 2008 13:27
Odinga was not elected by a majority. If he had the majority, he would be in State Hse right now. Of... [MORE]	K K	Jan 23, 2008 02:12
I am sure that you know the meaning of the word majority. If Raila received less than 50% of the... [MORE]	Fidel	Jan 27, 2008 11:34
Please stop Odinga before it is too late. There are a lot of facts on the ground leading to Islam... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 20, 2008 11:14
The US Government will not intervene to tell RAILA to stop the Violence since they are FUNDIND him. ODM has... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 21, 2008 02:34
I've watched the unfolding events in Kenya with great concern. The bias on the foreign media especially CNN and BBC... [MORE]	Wilson	Jan 19, 2008 16:43
Kisumu is or was Kenya's third largest city. 90% of Kisumu's central business district has been destroyed. View images on... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 19, 2008 15:59
The latest strategy employed by Raila, to boycott products from pro Kibaki companies only confirm what Mr Johnson wrote. ODM... [MORE]	Mercy	Jan 19, 2008 07:54
the killings of Kikuyus and their subsequent displacement in the greater Rift valley was too well orchestraed to be ignored....... [MORE]	Xtine	Jan 21, 2008 02:23
Yes and yes again there is more to these actions than meets the eye. The marauding killers were trained and... [MORE]	maingi	Jan 21, 2008 23:35
I really do not undersatnd why we Kenyans are so forgetful or why we opt to cower away from the... [MORE]	Xtine	Jan 22, 2008 03:10
Just check the names of people supporting this article. They are all Kikuyus. We Kenyans can tell. The check the... [MORE]	anonymous	Jan 22, 2008 04:24
Please view BBC Hard Talk interview (Jan 17) with opposition leader Odinga. In his interview, he defends burning of Eldoret... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 18, 2008 16:04
A true leader never sets the International community againt his country. It is selfish A real honest & WISE leader, worth... [MORE]	fm	Jan 18, 2008 13:47
i think the chaos in kenya were planned for and according to your column to some extent its true. Raila... [MORE]	purity	Jan 18, 2008 05:03
Any one who believes the presidency is HIS doesnt deserve that position. I hear they say "kuna wenye nchi na... [MORE]	mchezo	Jan 18, 2008 00:37
The stakes in the battle for Kenya are much greater than most realize. If the free world loses Kenya to... [MORE]	E. Sanders	Jan 18, 2008 00:27
Bw. Thumbi, I see your points clearly. But you argue from both sides of your mouth. Nobody is perfect and that... [MORE]	Wanjohi	Jan 17, 2008 21:11
Kikuyus are being killed (more than 400 people)all over Rift Valley as well as in Nyanza. Their properties are being... [MORE]	Githure	Jan 18, 2008 03:10
It's a shame of what has become of country, through the instigation of ODM and the fueling of tribal politics... [MORE]	W'Njeri	Jan 21, 2008 09:23
We tend to argue from different perspectives when it comes to the current situation in kenya. I am not ashamed... [MORE]	kagiri	Jan 21, 2008 15:51
W'Njeri Please don't resort to violence to avenge the death and destruction of your loved ones and your property. The Kenyan... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 22, 2008 13:39
The major disagreements I have with Kibaki are three. First he avoids communicating directly and clearly with wanainchi. Example, when Odinga... [MORE]	Thumbi	Jan 22, 2008 14:49
It's good to see that people are beginning to see that Raila Odinga is not an innocent victim of election... [MORE]	Toni D	Jan 17, 2008 20:19
Its very dishertening to see the kind of Genocide that has been going on in kenya sinc dec 29th. We... [MORE]	Mbugua	Jan 17, 2008 14:26
Oh, and sorry in my response to Mbugua who asked why Kenyans hate Kikuyus, I failed to see the last... [MORE]	Okello	Jan 21, 2008 09:33
Dear Okello: Very sad to note that you are making this a "tribal" battle. You are happy that the Kikuyus have... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 23, 2008 15:17
We Kikuyus are not desperate to be loved by any tribe which suffer from superiority complex but r ready and... [MORE]	Wamutiri	Feb 21, 2008 06:25
Kenyans and others, don't be mislead to do the bidding of the author of this article (the Kenyan connection). His... [MORE]	thumbi	Jan 17, 2008 11:58
Thumbi I live in Kenya and you should be aware that there is an Islamic connection -- appears that the port... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 18, 2008 02:58
Finally, the world gets to hear truth from a journalist. I have been dismayed and utterly insulted by the propaganda... [MORE]	GQ	Jan 17, 2008 08:17
Being a Kenyan here in Kenya and witnessing first hand the suffering that Raila's continued call for demonstrations is causing... [MORE]	Andrew	Jan 17, 2008 05:25
Since Obama supported his cousin and also funded his campaign, he should feel responsible for what is happening to Kenyans.... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 17, 2008 15:16
Here's the deal. It is evident that emotions onthis issues run way deep, but it is important for citizens of... [MORE]	lost child	Jan 16, 2008 19:59
I only wish stuff like this and Obama's church would have came out earlier. I fear with all this Obama... [MORE]	Al Dupp	Jan 16, 2008 17:53
Writer quotes the fake MOU that has been circulating the web, as facts. Writer talks about Raila converting Kenya into... [MORE]	Nick	Jan 16, 2008 15:27
Nick I live in Kenya and let me tell you an MOU was signed because it was in the newspapers. The... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 16, 2008 17:54
The real Memoradum of Understanding made between Obama's cousin Odingo (Obama is not denying this) and the Islamic group has... [MORE]	B.L. Eave	Jan 17, 2008 13:41
For what it's worth, it doesn't really matter who did what and to whom. What we need to right now... [MORE]	Celia	Jan 16, 2008 08:02
Celia: Most Kenyans want to embrace PEACE. Raila is now sacrificing the lives of his supporters by calling rallies. He has... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 16, 2008 17:32
Why don't you try sending a letter to Kibaki and Ojinga and then come back and share the response you... [MORE]	SM	Jan 18, 2008 20:09
the problem with many is that they refuse to accept reality and facts especially if they do not favor them.... [MORE]	grace	Jan 16, 2008 04:14
The crisis in Kenya is about greed for power, we either rule it or burn it. Kenyans are not fundamentally... [MORE]	Mercy	Jan 17, 2008 04:37
I must thank you for that report on Raila. Raila is a communist. He has no known interest in anybody... [MORE]	Mumbi	Jan 15, 2008 10:13
Those claiming that if Raila won there would be violence are not serious! For with the violence we are witnessing... [MORE]	Evans	Jan 16, 2008 01:12
Daniel Good research. You should perhaps take a look at where the funds for Odinga's campaign came from. There is a... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 16, 2008 17:39
elections results were just a vehicle that has unearthed greater issues in our country, land issues, tribalism, ignorance and hooliganism... [MORE]	agigated kenyan	Jan 22, 2008 11:06
The truth about Kenya is that we have fought several years for democracy and equal opportunities to all, and we... [MORE]	Tarko	Jan 15, 2008 02:35
This is the time of grieve in Kenya! Kibaki's winning (if he actually won) is Kenyan loss. More than 500... [MORE]	John Kajwang	Jan 15, 2008 01:48
John You have taken the words out of the mouth of most Kenyans. We don't care whether the election was rigged... [MORE]	ANNONYMOUS	Jan 16, 2008 18:04
Thak you for shedding the light . Americans should be very careful to who they are voting for. America do... [MORE]	njeri	Jan 17, 2008 05:11
Thanks for that article, The elections were just an excuse and you are right the western media are being played by... [MORE]	Mukami	Jan 14, 2008 19:54
There are in reality 4 problems. 1) the more obvious political stalemate: a flawed election VOTE COUNTING/TALLYING. NB: not a... [MORE]	Nairobian	Jan 14, 2008 09:59
Obama may be vying for Presidency in America, yes, but that has nothing to do with Kenyan politics and the... [MORE]	Charles Warria	Jan 14, 2008 05:13
I read with pity some of the reactions to this story and hope and pray that some day that the... [MORE]	LNK	Jan 14, 2008 04:27
Anybody who knows kenya would realize that kenyans are very hard working and well educated lot. Civic education already undertaken... [MORE]	Bwana Ogle	Jan 13, 2008 17:32
The link below goes to the Kenya server showing the actual document signed by Odinga. http://www.eakenya.org/AAEAKUpdate/RAILA_MUSLIM_MOU.pdf [MORE]	Marty W.	Jan 13, 2008 16:28
You are the first Western Journalist who has truly seen what Raila is about. I don' t think the kikuyu... [MORE]	Njeri Mwangi	Jan 14, 2008 14:43
This article is well thought out. At least we get a glimpse of the man who thinks he has the... [MORE]	Ken Ndirangu	Jan 13, 2008 05:43
That, a Kikuyu commenting on this article would side with Daniel Johnson's article. Most likely, a Luo would disagree with... [MORE]	Kiplimo	Jan 12, 2008 20:35
Kiplimo As much as the election results are questionable, it will never justify atrocities against any community or person either by... [MORE]	pauline	Jan 15, 2008 08:29
Your article is the first to capture Raila's destructive spirit. If he won the elections (which he did not seeing... [MORE]	Njeri Mbugua	Jan 12, 2008 15:56
Just watch this. Thanks for bringing these issues to the forefront.. Raila and his compatriot Rutto should be accused for crimes... [MORE]	Mwana Mpotevu	Jan 12, 2008 14:27
There is one very worrying part to all of this: the Memorandum of Understanding between Raila Odinga and the Moslems... [MORE]	The perfect storm	Jan 12, 2008 03:57
while I think it is a stretch to associate Obama's candidacy with Raila's claim that the two are related, Raila... [MORE]	John Onyango	Jan 11, 2008 22:37
To: New York Sun From: Randy Stein Your "Kenya Connection" article stimulated a truly educational response from commenators who largely... [MORE]	Randy Stein	Jan 11, 2008 18:48
Obama and Raila are very different. I hope that Raila is not affecting Obama's chances. Raila has consistently used violence to... [MORE]	Peter M'Thuranira	Jan 11, 2008 18:40
I have read for the first time today the articles in this column with great concern and I felt obliged... [MORE]	Stephen	Jan 11, 2008 18:09
You must understand that ODM has bought all the media and so the government voice is not coming out. So only... [MORE]	Tito	Jan 12, 2008 06:52
I am very glad to see some sense now reappearring in the western press who are begining to see Raila... [MORE]	Ian	Jan 11, 2008 16:34
What you wrote: In August 2006, Mr. Obama visited Kenya and spoke in support of Mr. Odinga's candidacy at rallies... [MORE]	s schafer	Jan 11, 2008 15:52
There is no such document or agreement between Raila and the National Muslim Leaders' Forum. That is sheer propaganda being... [MORE]	nel	Jan 11, 2008 15:43
Mr. Johnson does more than tell the truth about why we must be leary about Obama, who has not told... [MORE]	maggie	Jan 11, 2008 15:25
What those defending Raila Odinga are not telling you is that when the issue of the MOU with NAMLEF[an extremist... [MORE]	The Perfect Storm	Jan 11, 2008 15:16
It is interesting to note that the comments to this article are (for those claiming to be Kenyan), very visibly... [MORE]	Even More Concered Kenyan	Jan 11, 2008 14:13
we are all from the same country regardless of our tribes killing one community will not help any one. Why... [MORE]	tabitha	Jan 22, 2008 02:40
we are all from the same country regardless of our tribes killing one community will not help any one. Why... [MORE]	tabitha	Jan 22, 2008 02:40
Even if Odinga won there would still have been genocide but with great government cover-up. He promised the Muslims an... [MORE]	jim	Jan 11, 2008 12:50
finaly some one has seen the light [MORE]	jm	Jan 11, 2008 10:12
Not sure where you are going with your article. It just didn't make much sense except to bring in a... [MORE]	carolyne	Jan 11, 2008 10:11
The author of this article simplifies the complex nature of kenyas woes to discredit a man who has no firm... [MORE]	Joram	Jan 11, 2008 10:01
JULIAN ASSANGE Wikileaks investigations editor The Sun editorial "The Kenyan Connection" quotes extensively from a purported memorandum of understanding leaked by... [MORE]	Julian Assange	Jan 15, 2008 12:53
Tell the truth. Elections in kenya were stolen and is aknowdleged by the electral commission chairman samuel Kivuitu. Kenyans will... [MORE]	wycliffe	Jan 11, 2008 09:20
Thank you so much for the article. The truth about Raila is coming out at long last in the international... [MORE]	Jane P	Jan 11, 2008 09:17
The writer is sadly looking at Kenya through the prism of an ethnic community. Such attitudes have let us down... [MORE]	Paul	Jan 15, 2008 10:04
Dear Daniel, Before you slander a man who has no influence whatsoever on the direction of your life, it would be... [MORE]	Concerned Kenyan	Jan 11, 2008 09:06
It's very easy for any crook to use the word democracy to advance their evil agenda. It's even easier when... [MORE]	Dedan Kimathi	Jan 11, 2008 08:52
I do think that its this kind of negative publicity that will put Obama to the top. Americans are smarter... [MORE]	Kasichana	Jan 11, 2008 08:30
I warn you americans,,,Do not elect a luo as your president. Period. [MORE]	jeff wanyoike	Jan 12, 2008 11:14
you are the kind of people we do not need in Kenya-this is not about what tribe a person is-it... [MORE]	dissapointed kenyan	Jan 14, 2008 06:11
if you all go to scribd.com and search "leaked ODM poll strategy", it is all there in the document. This... [MORE]	Mary	Jan 11, 2008 00:27
when all kenyans joined force agaist moi, we had hope that the billions looted from kenya tresury will be uncoverde... [MORE]	murungi	Jan 12, 2008 03:21
Let me state that I am not a member of Raila's Luo tribe and I have been and continue to... [MORE]	Lugonzo	Jan 20, 2008 15:18
Lugonzo: You do not seem to get the message. No one is claiming that Kibaki won the elections -- we are... [MORE]	annonymous	Jan 21, 2008 01:13
Lugonzo, Just because Raila won 6 provinces doesn't gurantee him the presidency! The Kenyan Constitution mandates one win the popular vote... [MORE]	Justice Seeker	Jan 22, 2008 00:24
the argument on 2 out of 8 provinces voted for kibaki so he was not voted for by a majority... [MORE]	tabygal	Jan 24, 2008 05:31
It is unfortunate that people are falling for ODM's propaganda that Raila won in 6 provinces. The truth is he... [MORE]	Emily Muchemi	Jan 24, 2008 09:25
This world has true philosophers, like the author, Daniel Jonson. I wonder where he got this information from! Is it... [MORE]	superman	Jan 10, 2008 23:41
Kenya is in a crisis right now, but this opinion does not reflect the real situation. Raila Odinga is not... [MORE]	Clement Ndole	Jan 10, 2008 23:11
According to this article (and published before this article) Obama's relatives indicate that Raila and Obama are not related: Odinga... [MORE]	John Karau	Jan 10, 2008 22:04
Indeed Obama has fresh Luo blood in his veins. A Luo's behaviour is the same whether educated or in a... [MORE]	Christine Wathira	Jan 10, 2008 21:38
I lived in Kenya for about 2 years and have some understanding of the beautiful country. What is happening is... [MORE]	Mike P.	Jan 10, 2008 20:32
at last someone from the west not hoodwinked by Raila! [MORE]	patrick manyeki	Jan 11, 2008 01:18
I understand that in your need to try and link Obama and Raila you may be wrong in a few... [MORE]	Disgusted Kenyan	Jan 10, 2008 20:04
Your article is totally biased and full of hearsay! Take time to either visit Kenya (I'm sure the NYSUN can... [MORE]	Mzee	Jan 10, 2008 19:02
Thanks for a most informative article. Barack Obama is a true internationalist with ties to Kenya and Indonesia where he... [MORE]	john lang	Jan 10, 2008 18:47
I am a Kenyan (from Kibakis tribe) and find it appalling that this innuendo is bring touted to tarnish Obama.... [MORE]	FM	Jan 10, 2008 18:24
Politics is about how much you can present your opponent as dirty and filthy as possible while Democracy is about... [MORE]	Ben	Jan 10, 2008 17:36
Would you please stop with the fear~!...We the people of the United States are sick and tired of the establishment... [MORE]	Maria Gjonaj	Jan 10, 2008 16:53
Maria: Take a good read of the comments coming directly from Kenya. Real people in real life are dying from the... [MORE]	Vince P	Jan 11, 2008 03:54
What comments from Kenya are you talking about? Kenyan love Obama and a lot more Kenyans love Raila than the... [MORE]	Shaking my head	Jan 11, 2008 23:04
Daniel Robinson, I am originally from Kenya and I feel it is in your best interest that I educate you on... [MORE]	Fred	Jan 10, 2008 16:49
They spent a great deal of time together when sen obama visited kenya. Sen Obamas organisation was among the biggest... [MORE]	kamau	Jan 11, 2008 23:39
@DANIEL JOHNSON You should do your homework well before jumping into conclusions. What I see in your article is a... [MORE]	Mokimo Simon	Jan 10, 2008 16:41
Sir, I am a kenyan who read your article with great relief that finally, someone in the West is seeing... [MORE]	peter	Jan 10, 2008 16:27
I am a Kenyan and I have been following the politics of the day. I am no analyst neither journalist... [MORE]	Celina	Jan 11, 2008 03:31
I hope the International Media can bring out the truth about Raila and his such for power. I believe a... [MORE]	I wish	Jan 11, 2008 09:18
There is a history behind the Luo/Kikuyu conflict. The other tribes can work together with the Kikuyu. There are many... [MORE]	Tired Kenyan	Jan 11, 2008 12:53
Thank you for writing this story. I received the official documents that ODM leader signed with the muslim leaders in... [MORE]	Winnie Lyons	Jan 10, 2008 16:23
Thank you Daniel for your article. Kenya and President Kibaki have been tarnished in this past week due to lack... [MORE]	Jean	Jan 10, 2008 16:20
cnn had a bio of Obama's father and his Kenya family shortly before the election. Maybe people saw that and... [MORE]	nancy	Jan 10, 2008 16:05
Mr. Raila Odinga's party, have been fanning ethnic hatred in this diverse poor nation of east africa. And he has... [MORE]	Siri Eirletsen	Jan 10, 2008 15:10
Raila Odinga had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks in the church or anywhere in Kenya after the election... [MORE]	Clement	Jan 11, 2008 03:10
I fail to understand why the Luos and the kalenjins are so obsessed with the Kikuyus and what they have... [MORE]	Gaitho	Jan 11, 2008 11:52
Kenyans are not happy with the 6 percent growth of the economy, which just benefited Kibaki's buddies. It's only Kibaki's... [MORE]	Sir Priced!	Jan 11, 2008 22:41
Mr. Johnson, It sounds like someone of the Kibaki camp sent you an article and then you simply paraphrased it and... [MORE]	Eric Katua	Jan 10, 2008 15:05
Katua, in requiring the author to be objective, you have unfortunately proceeded to show your lack of understanding of the... [MORE]	SM	Jan 10, 2008 20:44
you clearly don't understand kenyan politics and never bothered to cross check the information you were fed. the details of... [MORE]	zab	Jan 11, 2008 06:57
Raila Odinga's pro-Americanism is just a ploy to hoodwink the West and it's obsession with democracy. His own history as... [MORE]	Dedan Kimathi	Jan 11, 2008 09:16
Obama should denounce it! [MORE]	Clint	Jan 11, 2008 09:41
All you have said here is support lies SM, Raila did not promise to turned Kenya into an Islamist country,... [MORE]	Pakana Panya	Jan 12, 2008 04:07
just before the elections a poll was conduted on media stations it was evident that the most fair / unbiased... [MORE]	tabygal	Jan 23, 2008 10:10
Mr Odinga the Kenyan opposition leader claimed that Obama was his cousin and this has hurt Obama terribly. I spoke... [MORE]	Obama supporter	Jan 10, 2008 15:02
Before you call anyone uncivilized, please show us you understand the situation in Kenya. Luos have nothing to do with... [MORE]	Civilized Luo	Jan 11, 2008 01:03
The author of this article is totally misinformed about the facts of what is happening in Kenya. Obama DID condemn... [MORE]	Laila Msambwezi	Jan 11, 2008 01:23
HIV has marginalised the Luo...and for your information, government does not give handouts....you have to work hard for everything...How do... [MORE]	Disgusted Kenyan	Feb 19, 2008 13:27
Most Kenyan Americans have be disappointed at how the American media has been completely mis-led by Mr. Odinga. He began... [MORE]	JW	Jan 10, 2008 14:33
Sad and sorrowful to see what a family can do ,Raila was also leader in the 1982 coup in kenya... [MORE]	nelly	Jan 10, 2008 13:44
If you were old enough and living in and around the city of Nairobi in 1982 then you know what... [MORE]	Christine	Jan 10, 2008 21:59
Unlike most of you commenting on this thread, I am NOT Kenyan. I am interested in the truth! Kamau, if... [MORE]	marie thomson	Jan 12, 2008 14:20
I feel saddened that people are dying in our country as a result of the irregular elections. I'm not luo... [MORE]	victor	Jan 29, 2008 07:50
Thank you for telling the truth about raila at one and the only international press who have done his his... [MORE]	george ngari	Jan 10, 2008 12:42
A long scholarly response is not necessary but I would like to say the following. Is that what the international focus... [MORE]	N. Wafula	Jan 10, 2008 11:08
Thanks, Mr. Johnson. I had no idea of any of the information you outline. [MORE]	H Brando	Jan 10, 2008 10:24
Mr. Johnson's observations and questions point out a fearful, sad, and ironic phenomenon presently occurring. It is a common enough... [MORE]	John Spencer Yantiss	Jan 10, 2008 10:01
I agree but not fully with you! I'm a Kenyan and i supported raila! In your article you say luos... [MORE]	KAMAU	Jan 10, 2008 20:45
I am appalled at the levels to which you would stoop in tarnishing Hon Raila Odinga's name.You know very well... [MORE]	william overton	Jan 11, 2008 02:43
Mr. Johnson's article shows a lack of understanding of the world that plagues Americans. Here is a country whose media... [MORE]	Edwin Okong'o	Jan 10, 2008 08:38
Even after Obama was briefed about Kenya during his visit in 2006. He Choose to ignore that and instead lecture... [MORE]	Jan	Jan 11, 2008 04:18
Those who are switching from Obama support to Clinton should remember what Bill Clinton did during the Rwanda massacre. ..nothing... [MORE]	Benard Nyamasi	Jan 11, 2008 15:02
i can only hope obama is diffrent, he's educated like most kenyans. why did he disrespect kibakis goverment on his... [MORE]	mike	Jan 20, 2008 20:52
When Barrack Obama visited Kenya the last time, he was recieved a cerebrity welcom, however, he appeared very misinformed about... [MORE]	neema	Jan 21, 2008 00:57
Do you do any fact checking before you publish articles...because this just takes the cake! [MORE]	IM	Jan 10, 2008 06:58
I'm glad to read this article. Raila Amolo Odinga is the curse of Kenya and is a power hungry man.... [MORE]	mariam	Jan 11, 2008 03:18

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