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Quite a Challenge Set For Clinton at an Obama Rally
in response to reader comment: Please. There's no way it's happening.

Submitted by Andy, Feb 8, 2008 15:03

Contrary to some of the comments above, I've not heard the media mention an Obama/Clinton ticket in the last few months. I thought "what if" on my own and hit the Internet to see what was about there. Seems that bloggers are the only ones speculating, so I don't think the media is fabricating anything on this.

Also, of course candidates currently running for president are going to hedge when asked whether they'd accept a VP nomination. Ironically, in this country, admitting that you've even considered the possibility that things won't work out in your favor is viewed as an admission that you don't think they should work out. So, rather than "read between the lines" to divine what someone I don't know is subjectively thinking about his/her own future, I am choose not to read to much in what a person currently running for president says about his/her willingness to be second-bannana on a ticket. The real question is what will he/she say when the declared nominee asks him/her to be VP and when he/she is no longer "currently running."

As for the rest, the possibility is just too intriguing. Of course, there are political obstacles to putting two current adversaries under the same banner, but the PARTY is not as divided as some would believe. Of all the polls about how white-women-over-65 and black-men-under-30 are voting, there was one interesting number that came out of Super Tuesdays coverage that received virtually no attention. The Democtratic party is split about 50/50 on either Obama or Clinton, BUT about 70%+ of the Democratic voters in each camp would be satisfied if their candidate didn't win. That tells me that, contrary to what the pundits are saying, the PARTY and its voters will unite behind either Obama or Clinton. They certainly would unite behind BOTH. The advantages of a ticket are just too many to list, and if both of them were as smart as I think they are, they will have to look long and hard at their personal reasons for dismissing what would be a great opportunity for both of them.

Since Hillary is in the lead right now, let's talk about the advantages for Obama that would come with being on a Clinton/Obama ticket. The man one is that he's a young man taking a very early swing at the presidency. It's a helluva swing, don't get me wrong, but he's got plenty of chances. Also, the ONLY real criticism that anyone can levy against Obama is his lack of experience. They can't touch his character. He's probably one of the best speakers I've ever heard. The ONLY thing that's holding him back is the experience issue. But-for that, he'd be way ahead of Hillary in delegates I think. Eight years as VP would kill any such criticism, and it would be eight years in an administration whose policies are virtually identical to him. Come 2016, Obama would be untouchable. Of course, an 8-year Clinton presidency could hurt Obama if we see the same kind of scandal-ridden-presidency-under-the-microscope-of-the-right-wing that we had with BIll. In the end, if Obama doesn't get the nomination, he'd be foolish to reject a VP spot. My only hope is that Hillary will be smart enough to ask.

As for Hillary as VP assuming Obama wins, that's a little different. First, he doesn't need her as much as she needs him. In fact, a good argument could be made that she would hurt him. Nonetheless, she's got a lot of support from the dems and polls still show her beating the Republican candidates. So, the reality is that she will help more than hurt. When it comes to whether she'd accept, I think she'd be far more stubborn about it. Hillary's ego is far too big for her to put personal feelings aside and accept second-prize, which is unfortunate.

Point is. It is a possibility. The "there's NO way because I've read between the lines" argument is not persuasive, especially when one looks at the very real and very substantial benefits of a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket. In any event, if either candidate is so stubborn to not even consider the possibility once his/her race is run and done, then he/she will be a victim of his/her own foolish pride. Either ticket would be historic (even above and beyond its current significance), and both could go down in history as pioneers. Would you really give up a place in history and a chance to do good for your country simply because you wouldn't like your boss personally (even if that is true)?


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Here's the idea, pass this on to both parties. It would be perfect to have Obama run as the Vice... [MORE]

anonymous 

Dec 12, 2006 09:43

If Clinton and Obama run separately votes will be divided in the primaries and neither one will get to run... [MORE]

Diane Kinkle 

Feb 25, 2007 21:47

I'm not affiliated with either party, but although I don't like either of them independently....if they ran together I'd vote... [MORE]

Independant Voter 

Jun 25, 2007 14:28

I agree! They should totally come together. Clinton as Prez, and Obama as vice for 8 years, then Obama as... [MORE]

anonymous 

Oct 28, 2007 10:51

These two powerful people should join forces, Obama is a great organizer and is smart as is Ms. Clinton it... [MORE]

Margaret Currey 

Jan 5, 2008 17:24

Great Idea. How can we make this happen, and it doesnt matter which one is vice president. So if these... [MORE]

winsor1114 

Jan 10, 2008 22:09

A Clinton-Obama ticket would guarantee a Democratic Presidency for 4 terms, Clinton 2 and Obama 2. Thats 4 TERMS or 16... [MORE]

touie69 

Feb 1, 2008 19:13

Clinton as VP wouldn't be a good idea. If you don'y believe me just ask Vince Foster. [MORE]

Clifford Roberts 

Feb 5, 2008 22:30

I really hope the powers that be see these posts.The Democratic party needs to look at the long term prospects.... [MORE]

JAGUSMC 

Feb 22, 2008 17:04

What shall it be? What shall it be? Decisions, decisions...On this hand we have Osama and on that hand we have... [MORE]

OMG 

Dec 12, 2006 08:14

Not to worry.. The Democrats (controlled by the Clintons) will talk him out of running. She will lose out as... [MORE]

Jacques Bakke 

Dec 12, 2006 00:44

While the second of the two proposed variants would give La Clinton a cold sweat, if Mr. Obama romance of... [MORE]

Sir Joshua 

Dec 11, 2006 08:07

Obama is the much needed natural leader, inspirational & Presidential energy. Hillary is the Pro politician, much better in the... [MORE]

Mysticmother 

Jan 3, 2007 21:14

Yeah Clinton/Obama/Obama /Clinton is the dream team that 21st Centry America actually needs. Its a sure win team that will... [MORE]

the observer 

Aug 29, 2007 12:42

The idea of a Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket is ridiculous. There is NO WAY. Barack Obama has already done interviews... [MORE]

Alissa 

Feb 1, 2008 15:52

Of course right now both candidates are still vying for the Presidential nomination, but we should all get used to... [MORE]

gb 

Feb 6, 2008 00:42

Contrary to some of the comments above, I've not heard the media mention an Obama/Clinton ticket in the last few...

Andy 

Feb 8, 2008 15:03

I think that would be a dream team. That would unite the democratic party and make everyone happy. If they... [MORE]

Mary 

Mar 5, 2008 12:09

I refuse to choose a candidate based on gender or race. It's not important to me. I'm also able to... [MORE]

Diane 

Mar 5, 2008 16:08

Naturally, I would want Obama to be president and Clinton as VEEP if a joint ticket is necessary. There are... [MORE]

Mothermaven 

Mar 6, 2008 11:25

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