The polls have been wrong so many times, it is not a good idea to base your column on polls instead of actual results. Obama won Wisconsin by roughly the same margin Hillary won her home state of New York, and it was a rout. Obama won nearly every demographic....and was even seen as the candidate most likely to win in November and the best qualified for commander-in-chief. Although I expected Obama to do well, these results were astounding. I would urge you to actually follow this election, as it is quite interesting.
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Why are so many people still wondering what he stands for? Are you expecting the media, the pundits, the nay-sayers,... [MORE]
Elad
Feb 21, 2008 14:27
Hillary will ALWAYS have my support whether she wins the nomination or not. Just seeing her stand up so strongly... [MORE]
Angela
Feb 21, 2008 04:11
Think of this ghastly thought: If all of the primaries were winner take all, Hillary Clinton would have a commanding... [MORE]
MIke F.
Feb 21, 2008 00:18
People, even if Obama wins the rest, they will be in a statistical tie, as only 1-2% of the delegate... [MORE]
John
Feb 20, 2008 22:41
But the catch, John, is your phrase "within the rules." The rules are that Florida and Michigan don't count. My... [MORE]
Joe c
Feb 20, 2008 23:35
Yes, Clinton needs a win. Badly. But Obama faces a more uncertain future. While Hillary may not be able to... [MORE]
Jack Heismann
Feb 20, 2008 22:18
To be effective, a presidential campaign has to be one part substance and two parts inspiration. A few people are... [MORE]
Joe c
Feb 21, 2008 00:32
There are few moral victories and Hillary cannot claim Wisconsin as one of them. She was beating Obama soundly in... [MORE]
Shin
Feb 20, 2008 22:16
Wisconsin was NOT a narrow defeat... monday some polls even had her in the lead, and there was the whisper... [MORE]
Todd Palmer
Feb 20, 2008 19:48
No, the margin was quite wide. And what I don't understand is why it is supposed to be a good... [MORE]
Joe c
Feb 20, 2008 21:12
Obama aka Mr. Ambiguous will only go so far. Around 10% of his votes last night came from crossover voters.... [MORE]
John Ross
Feb 20, 2008 18:21
Do 2 minutes of research...the rhetoric that Barack Obama is "hollow" and is only about speeches is getting old and... [MORE]
Rebecca
Feb 20, 2008 21:41
Obama beats Hillary by 17 points - yet you refer to it as a "narrow defeat"? Why? Because this time... [MORE]
Michael Kniat
Feb 20, 2008 17:53
CALLING ON ALL REPUBLICANS IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS
Last night Hillery said she was "ready to defeat the Republicans"... [MORE]
Daniel
Feb 20, 2008 17:48
After reading the article and the blogs that follow, one can only come to the conclusion that we Americans still... [MORE]
lynn payne
Feb 20, 2008 17:29
Remember the old saw? "Democrates Fall In Love; Republicans Fall In Line" Please my fellow Demos don't give the presidency... [MORE]
Buff Given
Feb 20, 2008 17:18
Better yet, what would they think? What would happen now if Hillary got the nomonation? What if she breaks even... [MORE]
Sherlock
Feb 20, 2008 16:58
It's Over, and that is pretty much a fact.Why is it a fact? Just do the math:
Obama is up 150... [MORE]
Elad
Feb 20, 2008 16:24
I can't possibly see how Hiliary Clinton can get any comfort out of the results of the Wisconsin primary. It... [MORE]
Ken Derickson
Feb 20, 2008 16:23
By any stretch of the imagination, a 17 1/2 point defeat in a swing state that looks an awful lot... [MORE]
Aaron K.
Feb 20, 2008 16:01
If Clinton wins Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Vermont all by 20%, she only picks up a net gain of... [MORE]
Mac Zilber
Feb 20, 2008 15:24
Barack's margins of victory since Super Tuesday: Louisiana: +21 Nebraska: +36 Washington: +37 Maine: +19 Virgin Islands: +82 DC: +51... [MORE]
Ajax the Greater
Feb 20, 2008 15:22
The Clinton campaign campaigned hard in Wisconsin. They went negative, they threw everything they could at Obama. The demographics was... [MORE]
Marge T.
Feb 20, 2008 14:58
Don't know why CNN and other networks only show Obama with 58% of the vote, given that he had 58.8%... [MORE]
Keith
Feb 20, 2008 14:58
Hmmm, the win doesn't count for much because so many independents and Republicans crossed over to vote for our candidate?... [MORE]
Ursa M
Feb 20, 2008 14:58
For those that think that Obama has alot of x-over appeal, I think there may be abit of a surprise... [MORE]
Heatwave
Feb 20, 2008 16:57
Obama outspent Clinton 4 to 1 in Wisconsin, enough said.
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Michael
Feb 20, 2008 14:57
Obama outspent Clinton because he's been raising bucketfuls more money from his supporters. What? You think it was desperate? You... [MORE]
Matt Weiss
Feb 20, 2008 20:21
I think you have captured the mindset of the Clinton campaign perfectly. [MORE]
ted
Feb 20, 2008 14:56
According to the majority of columnists, pundits, analysts, even former members of various Clinton campaigns in the past along with... [MORE]
Paul W
Feb 20, 2008 14:45
LOL thanks for reminding me that Obama spent $500,000 in the WI primary when I get home tonight I'll send... [MORE]
JIm Moore
Feb 20, 2008 14:29
You can't be serious in suggesting that a 17-point win is not a rout. It's virtually a landslide. And, most... [MORE]
Howard B.
Feb 20, 2008 14:18
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how a 17% victory in a state that largely favored her demographically can be... [MORE]
Matt Weiss
Feb 20, 2008 14:17
I guess her 17 point victory in NY was "narrow" as well. [MORE]
Newton
Feb 20, 2008 14:37
I'm not exactly sure how a roughly 17 point margin is "keeping it close," even by the low standards of... [MORE]
Mark Panning
Feb 20, 2008 14:13
I believe it is time for Mrs Clinton to call it quits in order to safeguard her reputation and her... [MORE]
orangeal
Feb 20, 2008 14:27
What a strange article. Wapshott declares it a victory for Clinton that Obama owes his win to the 36% of... [MORE]
Bill
Feb 20, 2008 14:07
she is running out of excuses. Truth is she is no Bill and she is, at best, a mediocre politician,... [MORE]
kwaku azar
Feb 20, 2008 14:03
Obama won by 13% in Wisconsin, with Hawaii as dessert. He reached decisively into Clinton's core consituencies. If that's not... [MORE]
Sisyphus in Soho
Feb 20, 2008 14:02
Now to win HRC needs to spread em with victories of 24- 25 % over Barack. Not really possible; me... [MORE]
Double digits = R O U T
Feb 20, 2008 14:24
I don't understand the following comment from this article: Mrs. Clinton can claim to have turned Wisconsin into a narrow... [MORE]
Jeff
Feb 20, 2008 14:00
Are you kidding? Clinton's team has tried to spin this as a narrow loss, but every news outlet has reported... [MORE]
Marcus
Feb 20, 2008 13:57
The claim that "Mrs. Clinton can comfort herself that she did not suffer an outright rout" is difficult to accept.... [MORE]
Obama was leading by around 4% in major Wisconsin polls over the weekend, by about 10% in less well-known polls... [MORE]
Aaron Levitt
Feb 20, 2008 09:39
% = nothingdelegates = everything
That is where the margin is small and that's the only thing that matters. CNN and... [MORE]
MDSM
Feb 20, 2008 16:17
Combined, the two losses set Clinton back by about 21 delegates. That's a truly significant total at this late stage... [MORE]
Joe c
Feb 20, 2008 22:11
Clinton herself denied last night that the "plagiarism" charge had been manufactured by her campaign, even though one of the... [MORE]
Bruce in London
Feb 20, 2008 09:35
I don't know how you could buy the idea that Clinton won the expectations game. The latest poll average showed... [MORE]
Howard
Feb 20, 2008 09:33
Senator Clinton:
Just bow out gracefully for the good of the party and for your hopes in 2016. It is pretty... [MORE]
Dave from NY
Feb 20, 2008 09:29
calling a 17 point loss in wisconsin a narrow defeat is inaccurate. by that logic, Obama only narrowly lost CAlf.... [MORE]
henry
Feb 20, 2008 09:28
The polls have been wrong so many times, it is not a good idea to base your column on polls...
dane ayers
Feb 20, 2008 09:24
Sir, The Democratic nominee contest is deadlocked now and however much the biased media gives a free ride to Barack... [MORE]
Maung Maung Nyo
Feb 20, 2008 09:15
Are you kidding? To make anything of the Wisconsin PRIMARY (remember when Obama was just about caucuses?) other than a... [MORE]
Tim
Feb 20, 2008 09:08
There is a huge contrast between Obama's rhetoric and his pedestrian agenda in fact it's quite stark if anyone takes... [MORE]
J C Dillon
Feb 20, 2008 09:07
The $500,000 he spent on ads is a pittance considering more than 25,000 people have donated since last night. He... [MORE]
Scott Miller
Feb 20, 2008 09:06
How can you possible describe 17 points as a "narrow loss"? In politics, it's a thrashing, especially when the polls... [MORE]
Jared
Feb 20, 2008 09:03
Obama won by 17 points in Wisconsin! To read this article, you would think it was 52-48. [MORE]
Jonah
Feb 20, 2008 09:03
Thank you for your analysis. As a woman over 60, I feel it is way past time for a woman... [MORE]
bailey's mom
Feb 20, 2008 08:59
Let's review the results. Obama won by 17 points, hardly a narrow victory by any standard; this was twice as... [MORE]
Harvey Thomson
Feb 20, 2008 08:58
Hillary should just get out now. All she serves to do is ruin the democratic party's chances at the presidential... [MORE]
Veronica
Feb 20, 2008 08:55
The people are saying NO to Mrs. Clinton. They are saying YES, YES, YES to Mr. Obama. Wisconsin was a... [MORE]
Munk
Feb 20, 2008 08:54
Since when is 17 points a narrow loss? There is no way Clinton can put a good face on this... [MORE]
John
Feb 20, 2008 08:52
Since when is a 17 point spread not an outright loss? This was a blowout that far exceeded the late... [MORE]
Lee Wright
Feb 20, 2008 08:46
If you look here: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#WIDEM you'll see that Obama actually won Democrats 53-46.
Not only that but you've badly misjudged the... [MORE]
K
Feb 20, 2008 08:42
Clinton lost by 17 points! Convince me that's a "narrow defeat" for me, and I'll buy you a beer. As... [MORE]
Common Sense
Feb 20, 2008 08:15
Dream on. This is over. Clinton will never be able to win the margins she needs to in Texas and... [MORE]
ATurner
Feb 20, 2008 08:05
Last i checked 17 points (58/41) was not considered a narrow defeat. O/08. [MORE]
nathan
Feb 20, 2008 07:59
With all due respect, but 58 - 41 % for Obama in a state that has only a very small... [MORE]
MartinBertschi
Feb 20, 2008 07:54
Your analysis is right on the mark. I believe Hillary can still win. The only problem is the press who... [MORE]
mel miller
Feb 20, 2008 07:52
Surely before it transpired that Obama won by about 17%. [MORE]
Rodger Lodger
Feb 20, 2008 07:46
The young and the "fresh, inexperienced" voters - who really do not have any idea of what it is to... [MORE]
PurplePolitics
Feb 20, 2008 16:52
I am a mother, an aunt and a grandmother and I am excited that America finally has a viable candidate... [MORE]
Sick of Politics As Usual
Feb 20, 2008 21:33
Her negative attacks somewhat stemmed Obama's tide? Huh? Just days ago, polls showed only a 4-5% lead for Obama. She... [MORE]
D. Baker
Feb 20, 2008 07:42
How is 17 points a "narrow defeat"? That is a drubbing, pure and simple. And by the way, according to... [MORE]