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Submitted by Charles Petrik, Feb 21, 2008 21:47

Yes Thinkgra, the founding fathers DID understand and forsee the fact that weapons in the future (todays weapons) would be invented.

How could they know this?? Because a large number of our founding fathers were, themselves, inventors. These men had seen changes and improvements to firearms, cannons, ships, rockets ("rockets red glare the bombs bursting in air"), etc. during their lifetimes. They knew that future generations would also have inventors, who would be inspired to invent by the biographies of men such as Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington. The founding fathers KNEW that these same, faster, better weapons would also be available to governments and to criminals, so the honest man should exercise his right to own such arms, themselves.

As far as the number of people living in cities, the founding fathers often were in America after LEAVING BIG CITIES, such as Paris, France and London, England. The concept of large buildings and people living close together had already occurred. With men such as Jefferson, who was an architect/designer/inventor, the idea of building bigger and better was often in his thoughts.

The whole argument AGAINST GUNS is based on the fact that people in power, ALWAYS WANT TO ABUSE THAT POWER! It is an unfortunate part of man and nature that the desire to always have more power will cause the strong or the wealthy to harm anyone or anything in their path. It is the right to protect yourselves that allows the weak and the poor to survive and possibly overcome this abuse of power. The fact that ALL of our Presidential candidates seem COMPLETELY WILLING to take away this basic right, shows that they all wish to help the corrupt people in power, and to prevent the average person from being able to resist this OPEN ATTEMPT TO WEAKEN AVERAGE AMERICANS FOR THE BENEFIT OF A SELECT FEW! IT IS ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING TO DESTROY OUR DEMOCRACY WHO WOULD NEED TO WEAKEN ITS CITIZENS.

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OK, Obama believes that the 2nd Amendment provides an individual's right to bear arms. What he supports are a communities'... [MORE]	Julia	Mar 18, 2008 11:13
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I TOLD ya not to vote for Obama! [MORE]	Ol'Bill	Mar 17, 2008 12:22
I feel very sorry for any one who will vote for this type of person who has been known to... [MORE]	Don Dille	Feb 23, 2008 19:32
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Just like most Democrats Obama is showing his true colors.If he will take away your right to keep and bear... [MORE]	Ron	Feb 22, 2008 11:19
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep... [MORE]	Bad Lad	Feb 22, 2008 11:16
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Jefferson once said, "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and... [MORE]	bo	Feb 22, 2008 10:21
You are confusing rights with priviledges. There is no natural right to drink alcohol. There is no natural right of... [MORE]	Patriot	Feb 22, 2008 10:16
Sorry to rain on your parade Patriot but the government of Great Britian took away the people's right to defend... [MORE]	Glenn	Feb 23, 2008 01:45
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'Most everyone knows how anti-individual-liberty Senator Clinton is (and at least 50% of the population doesn't care, they'll vote for... [MORE]	Blaine Nay	Feb 22, 2008 02:10
What do we do when words fail us? [MORE]	grimmace	Feb 22, 2008 01:14
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Obama says we must change and that is a given. As a constitutional lawyer, he should know that it is... [MORE]	Retired Teacher	Feb 22, 2008 18:34
I have often wondered what it is that "they" want to do to us, that they can't do while we... [MORE]	Cal	Feb 21, 2008 23:02
Obama's position is that if a majority of people in a local community want to ban guns in their community... [MORE]	liberal internationalist	Feb 21, 2008 22:36
So if the majority of a community desides that they don't want a particular ethnic group living among them they... [MORE]	D. Anderson	Feb 22, 2008 02:51
Last time I read through the Bill of Rights I didn't see any mention of booze, hookers or games of... [MORE]	NRA Life Member	Feb 22, 2008 05:48
"Obama's position is that if a majority of people in a local community want to ban guns in their community... [MORE]	RG	Feb 22, 2008 08:24
None of the things you listed are guaranteed under the constitution. What if a majority of people in a community... [MORE]	DC	Feb 22, 2008 09:25
We have already been invaded fellow Americans. Arm&Get'm. The liberals want to remake the country into what THEY want- whether... [MORE]	ralphy	Feb 22, 2008 11:00
Alcohol, prostitution, and gambling are left to the seperate states and are not available to all Americans. The right to... [MORE]	Glenn	Feb 23, 2008 00:36
Submitted by liberal internationalist, Feb 21, 2008 22:36 "Obama's position is that if a majority of people in a local community... [MORE]	Jimmyjet	Feb 24, 2008 17:41
Spent a bit of time in WW2 exercising my second amendment rights. This for all in my country and even... [MORE]	Ol'Bill	Mar 17, 2008 12:33
Sen. Obama will say about anything to get a vote. What happens when he gets in??? Thats whats scary he... [MORE]	Jay	Feb 21, 2008 20:39
Well, Thinkgra, if we all uses your powers of reason, we'd be limited to quill pens and printing presses for... [MORE]	Doug	Feb 21, 2008 20:09
When the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, firing a gun took a few minutes to pull off. You fired, put... [MORE]	thinkgra	Feb 21, 2008 18:51
Typical of you on the left who want to parse the constitution to fit your personal beliefs. I own several... [MORE]	john	Feb 21, 2008 19:31
So going with your logic, the city you live in is perfectly in line with the constitution if they decide... [MORE]	shawn	Feb 21, 2008 21:13
Yes Thinkgra, the founding fathers DID understand and forsee the fact that weapons in the future (todays weapons) would be...	Charles Petrik	Feb 21, 2008 21:47
You need to do your homework. I also eat what I kill, except varmints. Wild meat tastes better, and is... [MORE]	Keith	Feb 21, 2008 21:55
The Founding Fathers did not have guns in mind when they wrote the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights. They... [MORE]	Patriot	Feb 22, 2008 10:32
Thinkgra states that because technological developments in the field of firearms have progressed in the last 300 years that removes... [MORE]	Agincourt	Feb 22, 2008 11:14
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As you stated Zach, the Constitution does not give us a right to have specific types of weapons, in fact... [MORE]	Glenn	Feb 21, 2008 15:51
Zach is incorrect about the Second Amendment, accepted as ratified, would permit law abiding citizens to own bazookas or other... [MORE]	Dave	Feb 21, 2008 18:50
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Oh please, this is barely worthy of a rejoinder. The fact is, there are few, if any, absolute rights. Just... [MORE]	Scott Baker	Feb 21, 2008 10:02
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A typical politician.Whichever way the wind of opinion is blowing. [MORE]	fred sanders	Feb 21, 2008 07:44

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