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Closing Six Hospitals To Be Sought in the City
in response to reader comment: Closure of St Vincent's Midtown Hospital

Submitted by don cressy, Dec 29, 2006 19:27

Dear Sir(s),

I would like you to consider some of the unpublished effects of the Berger Commission's Prescription for Disaster. While most critics of the Berger Commission will cite the risk of Pandemic and Terrorism, I would like you to consider another consequence of the Berger Commission's Great Real Estate rout…

The city will lose over 200 (+) Detox Beds.

Victory Memorial Hospital 25 – enormous campus in Bayridge Brooklyn with spectacular views.

Parkway Hospital 45 – Forest Hills Queens with an unimpeded view of the Flushing Meadow

Cabrini Hospital 20 –An entire city block in one of the most desirable addresses in the city

Eye Ear and Throat Hospital – Prime Upper Eastside Real Estate

Beth Israel 80 Detox beds will convert to psych beds

St. Vincent's Midtown Hospital 41 – More Prime Real Estate of the more than Half a Billion Dollar Fire Sale….

There will be about 20 or so Hospital-based Detox beds from the Battery to Harlem. Those few Sanatorium-based Detox beds will not admit patients in acute withdrawal or intoxicateded patients besides those patients with chronic physical or mental illnesses. These men and women will not get the care they need and will be a danger to themselves and their communities, especially in Midtown Manhattan. 70% of these men and women who use Detox services suffer from acute mental illness, HIV, HEP-B&C, Cirrhosis, Diabetes, Hypertension, and Heart Disease. Bellevue Hospital won't have room for these patients because they will be filled with the uninsured, unidentifiable, undocumented, and out-of-state addicts and alcoholics seeking services. From South Ferry all the way up to Harlem there will be little more than 20 hospital-based Detox beds and those remaining hospitals will have their Emergency Rooms flooded with the population we deny exists and don't want to care for. That is an obscenity.

Based on an average of 61 admissions per bed annually, that will mean 12,200 less Detox admissions per year, at a possible savings in excess of $30,000,000. The absurd idea that homeless people will access the yet-to-be-developed Outpatient Detox Services is patently absurd. 75% of all Detox patients are homeless. 23% live in some sort of supported housing i.e. Section 8, NYC Housing Authority, and HASA. No more than 3-4% are capable of maintaining employment and paying rent control, rent stabilization or market rates for their apartments. New York is one of the few states that has elective admissions for Detox paid for by public funds. We will soon follow suit with our neighboring 49 states and enjoy some of the benefits that they have reaped, such as 1 in 32 Americans being imprisoned, on probation, or parole.

As an addictions professional and a recovering person, I have a bit of knowledge that few of us care to remember. Times Square and Midtown have always been a magnet for the homeless, destitute and drug addicted. In the crowds of Times Square you can hide from your dealers, shylocks, your local precinct cops, the warrant squad, angry wives, girlfriends and people you've ripped off and robbed in your own neighborhood. It's easier to steal here. It's very easy to rob and run. In most people's own neighborhoods their shoplifting and boosting careers are short-lived.

To pull a mugging or armed robbery in most neighborhoods in NYC, the danger lies not with the police but with your intended victim pulling out a gun on you, in response. Also when your last victim sees you, the victim and their friends and their family members will put you in more danger than the police. In the event you commit similar crimes in Times Square and are dim-witted, sloppy, drunk, high, or just plain unlucky enough to be apprehended, your victims will be nice people from out of town or foreigners unable to identify you, and unable testify in court against you, because - they are tourists.

Scams and hustling are also short-lived in the city's residential neighborhoods because your "Marks" are people you and your family have known for years. And, odds are, they know the same scams because one of their friends or relatives is vacationing at an upstate a correctional facility upstate for the similar offense. This ain't Kansas! You don't want to get caught after selling an empty DVD Player box by someone in your neighborhood, or selling "No-Caine" because your "Marks" can call on plenty of people to mete out justice and make you understand how there's never a cop around when you need one. Panhandling in one's own neighborhood only embarrasses your family and is not approved of, because the people in your neighborhood know your kid has not been dying of cancer for the last ten years; the money is not going for your 55th operation, it's not going to feed your imaginary kids, the food you're allegedly buying is comes in 24 or 40 ounce sizes, and is fortified with additional alcohol. Your friends and neighbors will strongly suggest you stop embarrassing your family and take your scam to the subways, preferably the Number 1 train because it has the most tourists. .

If you did get caught for drug related offenses and sent to drug court and tried, no longer will the judge's will be able to remand you to treatment. There will be months of waiting lists for admission to Detox. Those persons on parole and probation will lose those rare chances to straighten up and fly right, being summarily violated and returned to jails and prison after their urines test dirty. Another expense far greater than treatment is called, incarceration, just because there will be no detox beds available.

The 28-day rehabs in the city and throughout the state will have to close or scale down operations when more than half of their referrals disappear along with the Detox units. Over 40% of the Detox patients go there after Detox. This will add several thousand more people to the list of unemployed hospital workers. Don't forgot the contractors and suppliers, the ambulette drivers, food service, medical supply, office supply, linen supply, janitorial supply people and the neighboring businesses who rely on hospital workers. And there are the daycare workers for all the single mothers and working couples with children, the dry cleaners, and uniform supply. We will probably find over 10,000 people unemployed in the next 24 months. If those 10,000 people make an average of $30,000 per year, the Berger Commission's $30,000,000 savings will take $30,000, 000.00, out of the economy of the City of New York... Where are the savings?

There will be skyrocketing crime. The economic miracle of Times Square and it's big hearted, but naiive tourists will be ripe for crime, once again. Street cons, shoplifting, drug selling, prostitution, pick pocketing, panhandling, and assorted hustles will scare the tourists out of Times Sqaure a second time in the last half century.

Understaffed Emergency Rooms will be crowded beyond belief. Former hospital workers unable to retrain in other professions or unable to find jobs in the surviving hospitals will face dispossession, home foreclosures, auto repossessions, college drop-outs for their children when tuition can't be met, garnishments, judgments, unpaid real estate taxes, unpaid student loans, a rise in alcohol abuse, divorce, and family problems as those once working class people will sink into poverty in a city almost devoid of low-skill-qualified jobs.

All for the sake of a handful of real estate speculators?

It's funny, but the last time I looked at one of the closed units at my hospital I didn't see a single doctor, nurse, aide, or transporter on payroll sitting around waiting for a patient. When those co-ops and condos from these purloined properties are completed, sold and inhabited, the tenants may find when they leave their luxury apartments, the city streets will look more like Mad Max and the Pleasure Dome than the backdrop of Sex in the City. When you come to the city looking for Breakfast at Tiffany's', you're more likely to get robbed and your head broken by a six-foot Bi-Polar, transsexual named Tiffany, (who hasn't had her meds in a month, because the Emergency Room that used to refill her meds is closed and she doesn't have the frustration tolerence to wait 14 hours in another ER to have her prescription refilled) and by the way, she needs a couple of hundred dollars to smoke Crack.

Are we all ready for this?


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gary lunsford 

Mar 4, 2008 12:04

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Barbara 

Mar 2, 2008 22:26

I feel each one of us living in Hells Kitchen will be gaining by the closure of this hospital. We... [MORE]

JIm 

Aug 31, 2007 20:42

Those on the inside know it's about the money and income. Very little Healthcare going on here. ER has become... [MORE]

Antoine LaBlatte 

Mar 11, 2008 10:10

Saint Vincent Hospital has to close because of the low census of patients. The hospital cannot operate with more workers... [MORE]

Anonymous 

Aug 6, 2007 21:16

I was sent from New Jersey by my doctor to Cabrini for surgery and received the very best of care... [MORE]

Linda McCaffrey 

Jul 9, 2007 11:29

I am currently the Medical Staff Coordinator at St. Vincent's Midtown Hospital and I can only echo the other positive... [MORE]

Doris Lederman, CPCS 

Jan 2, 2007 14:55

Yesterday, we said goobye to St. Vincent's Midtown, "The Little Hospital That Could". I work for FDNY EMS, stationed at... [MORE]

D. Campanelli 

Sep 1, 2007 11:15

I was a surgical patient at St. Vincent's Midtown in September, as I was ten years ago at St. Vincent's... [MORE]

Mark D. Fields 

Dec 18, 2006 19:32

The Ryan White Program is a perfect example of how people with Aids are treated at Saint Vincent's Midtown Hospital... [MORE]

Douglas Chin 

Nov 30, 2006 02:19

I was former President of the Medical Staff at St. Vincent's' Midtown hospital previously called St. Clare's Hospital.

It is a... [MORE]

David M Burke MD 

Dec 4, 2006 20:11

St. Vincent's Midtown, formerly St. Clare's was the first hospital on the East Coast of the USA to open it's... [MORE]

Tom Coughlan 

Dec 24, 2006 18:48

Dr. Burke reports correctly the history of this hospital. I was the Medical Staff Coordinator for 15 years at this... [MORE]

Phyllys Agatstein, MA, CPMSM 

Dec 29, 2006 12:42

Dear Sir(s),

I would like you to consider some of the unpublished effects of the Berger Commission's Prescription for Disaster. While...

don cressy 

Dec 29, 2006 19:27

I am on the medical staff at St. Vincent's Midtown and disgusted with the arrogant, unilateral decision that has been... [MORE]

Patricio G. Bruno, D.O. 

Dec 29, 2006 23:14

My wife and I had an absolutely terrible experience with this hospital. There are much better emergency care and hospital... [MORE]

Matt 

Feb 2, 2007 07:49

parkway hospital is the nearest hospital (time) from la guardia airport. the airport and the hospital are both located at... [MORE]

rolf . niebergall 

Feb 19, 2007 23:38

The hospital should close. The empolyees at the hospital have been working over two years with NO HEALTH INSURANCE AND... [MORE]

Jul 27, 2007 08:57

I recently had 2 surgeries at St. Vincents Midtown Hospital, and I must say I receieved such wonderful care. The... [MORE]

Dr. Forrest R. Leone 

Jul 28, 2007 08:22

As an employee of the hospital and a service to the community on the NYC EMS 911 Ambulance which had... [MORE]

Ms. S. Bologna 

Sep 2, 2007 22:17

the Rotunda.............Dublin............... [MORE]

N.Collins 

Mar 9, 2008 15:32

THE CURRENT PATAKI ADMINISTRATION, WHICH HAS FAILED TO IMPLIMENT ANY TYPE OFSUBSTANCIALY SIGNIFICANT HEALTHCARE REFORM IN ALL THE YEARS IN... [MORE]

ANTHONY CARFANO 

Nov 29, 2006 21:56

this hosp has a lot of history , the ony hosp that opened it ares for all the pts that... [MORE]

emmad marji 

Nov 29, 2006 09:30

i have lived in the are for 25 years, closing the hospital would significantly impact the are, and that would... [MORE]

alfonso pesce 

Nov 28, 2006 11:29

Can't New York afford one really good specialty hospital? With all the artists and graphic designers in NYC, don't we... [MORE]

Ann Agranoff 

Nov 28, 2006 08:56

I write to inform you that this hospital is a great hospital. I staff members and doctors are the best.... [MORE]

Blanca Esponda 

Nov 27, 2006 12:05

The answer to the health issue crisis is not to close hospitals, but rather support them. In the event this... [MORE]

Linda E 

Nov 27, 2006 18:25

This hospital let both my parents die. They are incapable of taking care of people with heart conditions and cancer... [MORE]

M Murray 

Nov 28, 2006 10:54

I am sorry things did not work out for your parents. However, I must differ in your assessment of Westchester... [MORE]

a paladino 

Nov 28, 2006 12:29

I am sorry for the lost of your parents, however to discriminate against the hospital because of your personal loss... [MORE]

Joseph 

Nov 28, 2006 22:30

Now it's extended to the hospitals? People forget fast that Cabrini played a major in 9/11, given it's location adjacent... [MORE]

Marie Tudisco 

Dec 8, 2006 10:20

very well said!

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maria 

Dec 12, 2006 20:14

This does not address the real issues of soaring health care costs and will have no impact on the problem.... [MORE]

janet moore 

Nov 22, 2006 17:07

The primary problem is health care cost which is due to 1)increasing insurance premium secondary to injury lawer, 2)more people... [MORE]

Steven 

Nov 29, 2006 15:59

DEAR MR. GERSHMAN: AS A PHYSICIAN WORKING AT PENINSULA HOSPITAL(QUEENS, NY) I'M CONCERNED WHETHER THIS LIST IS COMPLETE OR IF... [MORE]

DR. STANLEY SPRECHER 

Nov 22, 2006 12:09

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