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Horse Pucky

Editorial of The New York Sun | November 30, 2007

Just in time for the holidays the City Council is being asked to shut down a 100-year-old New York City industry — the business of horse-drawn carriages that have for generations delighted New Yorkers and visitors, adults and children with jaunts around Central Park and a few other venues in the city. Ending all this, our Grace Rauh reported yesterday, is the idea of a council member from Queens, Anthony Avella, who wants to ban the horses and carriages, and plans to introduce a bill next month. Earlier he offered a bill to restrict the places these carriages can go, but it has been stalled in City Hall.

Well, horse pucky. Yesterday we had a letter from Ian McKeever of Shamrock Stables, writing on behalf of the Horse and Carriage Association in the city, to say the "beloved and well-cared for carriage horses are deemed in excellent health and condition" by the city's health department, the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and "our own independent veterinarians." New Yorkers who stroll along Central Park South can look for themselves at these wonderful nags. They may not be Seabiscuits, but they are not unhappy, mistreated horses. They are well fed and cared for, and providing a wonderful service for their owners and customers.

Who knows how many hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers and visitors have taken to these carriages to woo or be wooed, to rekindle a romance, to charm their children, or just to see a park that is one of the greatest in any city? Why in the world would the City Council want to end this tradition? The far better course is to craft legislation to secure its survival, such as the bill being offered by another member from Queens, James Gennaro, that would permit, but not require, drivers to raise their rates for the first time since 1989. They, too, deserve a happy holiday.


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I spent over a year making a documentary film about the NYC horse-drawn carriage industry. The film has not yet... [MORE]

Donny Moss 

Nov 30, 2007 10:08

Propaganda "documentaries" such as the one "Donny Moss" put together with PETA's money are nothing more than edited horse manure.... [MORE]

Mark 

Nov 30, 2007 16:30

Blinders was funded by McMoss Productions, which did not receive any money from PETA. Stating that you know the sources... [MORE]

Donny Moss 

Nov 30, 2007 19:44

Donny, Exactly how many stable owners did you interview for your propoganda film? Exactly how many horses have your or do... [MORE]

Mark 

Dec 1, 2007 10:14

As the owner of the largest fleet of horse drawn carriages in NYC,my Family's Business over 40 yrs,I THANK NY... [MORE]

Anita McGill 

Dec 1, 2007 21:10

I love it when self-serving industry folks and their ignorant supporters try to label anyone who dares to differ with... [MORE]

Zizi 

Dec 2, 2007 00:45

I have stood near the carriage horses on Central Park on many a weekend helping to collect signatures of passersby... [MORE]

Teresa 

Nov 30, 2007 11:11

Let's let go of this ridiculous notion that forcing horses to pull loads in all weather extremes while they inhale... [MORE]

Jason Xavier 

Nov 30, 2007 12:26

What is it with elected officials? They get in office, and morph into ALL-KNOWING-I'VE-BEEN-ANNOINTED-GODLINGS who are destined to fix the... [MORE]

John Spencer Yantiss 

Nov 30, 2007 13:08

This is a new low, even for The Sun. The paper has made a judgment that the horses "...are not... [MORE]

Jill 

Nov 30, 2007 14:07

It's time to shatter the romantic illusion surrounding the NYC horse-drawn carriage business. It's cruel, it's inhumane, and it's simply... [MORE]

Catherine 

Nov 30, 2007 22:25

My family and I are traveling a thousand miles to visit your fine city in late December. One of the... [MORE]

Joe Lee 

Dec 1, 2007 07:40

Why I fail to see why this is a partisan issue, I just so happens that NYC Councilmember Gennaro --... [MORE]

New Yorker 

Dec 2, 2007 12:49

New Yorker -- Did you clear your comments with the NYC Visitors' Bureau? [MORE]

Former New Yorker 

Dec 4, 2007 16:03

can i have your horses [MORE]

shannon 

Dec 2, 2007 06:39

I feel as the owner of a 40 yr old family business that owns and operates and maintains a stable... [MORE]

Anita McGill 

Dec 2, 2007 15:15

So sad to see articles like this that look only at one side of a story. You need to do... [MORE]

slee 

Dec 2, 2007 14:32

I guess you're rooting for Michael Vick too? [MORE]

David 

Dec 3, 2007 08:47

I live in Canada. New York city is not the place for horses and carriages. It is noisey, dirty, full... [MORE]

Helen Gourley 

Dec 3, 2007 13:48

Ms.Gorley must never visit Montreal,where there are hundreds of carriage horses working and staying quite busy.Ontario has horse drawn rides... [MORE]

Anita McGill 

Dec 4, 2007 11:35

The "holidays" mentioned in the editorial are a particularly difficult time for the horses. Especially on weekends, the horses work... [MORE]

DIANE M. KASTEL 

Dec 4, 2007 00:55

To respond to Ms.Kastel,its obvious you don't go too often to our carriage stands.The ASPCA ,and Health Dept,Besides the Parks... [MORE]

Anita McGill 

Dec 4, 2007 11:17

Your resentment of the councilman from Queens does not negate the sad observationsand photos of f the horses' decrepit housing... [MORE]

DIANE KASTEL 

Dec 4, 2007 22:10

To respond to ms.kaskel on stable conditions,it amazes me that such accusations can be made when all 5 stables passed... [MORE]

Anita McGill 

Dec 5, 2007 10:25

Pictures of barren stables with no room for them to interact with others of their kind do not lie. The... [MORE]

DIANE M. KASTEL 

Dec 6, 2007 09:29