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Clinton Debate Gibe: 'Change You Can Xerox'

By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | February 22, 2008

Senator Clinton delivered a more focused and energetic performance than Senator Obama at a high-stakes presidential debate last night, but she failed to deliver any knockout punch or to benefit from any gaffe likely to upend Mr. Obama's juggernaut toward the Democratic nomination.

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Senators Obama and Clinton participate in the Texas Democratic Party’s presidential candidates debate yesterday at the University of Texas at Austin.

The first half of the 90-minute CNN/Univision debate produced a polite discussion of policy on Cuba, immigration, and other issues but illuminated few differences between the candidates. At that point, the moderators began trying to ignite some fireworks, but the sparks flew only after Mr. Obama was asked to respond to claims by Mrs. Clinton's campaign that he plagiarized portions of his stump speeches from Governor Patrick of Massachusetts.

"It's not a lot of speeches. There are two lines in speeches that I've been giving over the last couple of weeks," Mr. Obama said. "The notion that I had plagiarized from somebody who was one of my national co-chairs who gave me the line and suggested that I use it, I think, is silly, and you know, this is where we start getting into silly season, in politics, and I think people start getting discouraged about it."

"I think if your candidacy is going to be about words, then they should be your own words," Mrs. Clinton replied. "That's I think a very simple proposition. Lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in, it's change you can Xerox," she said, delivering the most memorable line of the night, but also eliciting a chorus of boos from the audience at the University of Texas at Austin.

"That's not what happened," Mr. Obama insisted.

"You know what, Barack, it is," she said, as the booing continued. "If you look at the YouTube of these videos, it does raise questions."
The debate's only significant development on the policy front was a pledge by Mrs. Clinton to move quickly to introduce immigration legislation if she becomes president. "There must be a path to legalization. I would introduce that in the first 100 days of my presidency," While campaigning in Iowa in December, the former first lady refused to make that commitment, which effectively one-ups Mr. Obama's promise to push such legislation within a year of assuming the presidency.

The urgency both candidates have pledged on the issue is a rebuke to a prominent Democratic leader in the House, Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, who has reportedly said the issue should not be considered in the first term of a new Democratic president.

On a couple of occasions last night, the former first lady showed flashes of emotion, something some of her advisers began counseling her to do again after she teared up at a New Hampshire café. As the debate concluded, she grew emotional as she said, "Whatever happens, we're going to be fine. … I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people." She was also passionate as she complained that Mr. Obama's health care plan lacked a so-called mandate and would leave millions of Americans without insurance. "This is too important. This is the number one issue that people talk to me about. You know, when a mother grabs my arm and says, 'I can't get the operation my son needs because I don't have health insurance,' it is personal for me," she said.

Mr. Obama said mandates don't work well, as is being seen with such an effort in Massachusetts. "They have exempted 20% of the uninsured because they have concluded that that 20% can't afford it," he said. "There are people who are paying fines and still can't afford it, so now they're worse off than they were."

On Iraq, Mrs. Clinton acknowledged that the troop surge in Iraq has reduced violence, but said that "the purpose of it has not been fulfilled" by producing political progress in the Iraq government.

"This is a tactical victory imposed on a huge strategic blunder," Mr. Obama said, before turning the question into a chance to argue that he would be a more formidable challenger to the presumptive Republican nominee, Senator McCain of Arizona. "When we're having a debate with John McCain, I think it is going to be much easier for the candidate who was opposed to the concept of invading Iraq in the first place to have a debate about the wisdom of that decision than having to argue about the tactics subsequent to that decision."

Asked to identify the moment in their lives that had tested them the most, Mr. Obama essentially passed, missing an opportunity to allay fears that he is not sufficiently experienced for the presidency.

"I think everybody here knows I've lived through some crises and some challenging moments in my life," Mrs. Clinton said, alluding vaguely to the sex-and-lies scandal that almost drove her husband from office.


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Obama's been beat up for a week over Clinton's plagiarism allegations, but she's guilty of worse: HYPOCRISY! Bill Clinton 1992: "The... [MORE]

Dawn 

Feb 22, 2008 00:28

Most observers agree that Obama had an unexpectedly solid performance; Clinton came through in answering the last question, which, however,... [MORE]

Tora Laohu 

Feb 22, 2008 03:47

Hillary is Confident , She answers all questions confidently. She speaks with knowledge know how, THAT SHE WILL DO IT,... [MORE]

Carol 

Feb 22, 2008 12:56

Why does it seem that Clinton supportors have a chip on their shoulders? What debate was Carol watching? Mr. Obama... [MORE]

Ron 

Feb 22, 2008 14:41

OBoma is Bombing, He's crtitcal ,says what he wants and you praise him for it!!! He never gives a straight... [MORE]

Carol 

Feb 22, 2008 15:37

The political system is broke. Lobbyists own the polititions. Money buys votes. Experience means nothing. The Medicare and Social Security... [MORE]

Wayne 

Feb 23, 2008 07:50

For all the whining and complaining about our political system, we should keep in mind some important things. 1. We... [MORE]

Jason 

Feb 24, 2008 11:25

Clinton's 'xerox' comment lost her the debate. The American electorate is not dumb, and knows that a freely offered line... [MORE]

katharine 

Feb 22, 2008 01:26

He's the first one to make critism toward her. When Hillary answer's in defense of his bad comments. He answers... [MORE]

Carol 

Feb 22, 2008 16:05

Mr. Obama must maintain the high ground and refuse to pander as Mrs, Clinton is prone to doing. He needs... [MORE]

kay 

Feb 22, 2008 02:34

Senator Clinton only appeared to be focused. But when you listened to her, she was quite visceral. And there are... [MORE]

Chris 

Feb 22, 2008 08:32

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America. [MORE]

PulSamsara 

Feb 22, 2008 09:17

Desparate times call for desparate measures and Ms. Clinton, unfortunately, has reached that point in her quest for her party's... [MORE]

Jake 

Feb 22, 2008 09:40

why is so many people against the word Xerox it a word in the dictionary that states making copies of... [MORE]

Sambud 

Feb 23, 2008 14:28

If you use means to an end such as pandering, misinformation and finding ways to try to exploit a situation... [MORE]

stephen 

Feb 23, 2008 16:09