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Council Seeks New Ban on Smoking by Parents in Cars

By GRACE RAUH, Staff Reporter of the Sun | August 15, 2007

Smokers have already been banned from New York bars and restaurants, and soon they could be prohibited from lighting up in cars carrying minors, an idea giving added fuel to critics who say the city has become a nanny state.

A City Council member of Queens who is chairman of the council's Environmental Protection Committee, James Gennaro, said he is planning to introduce the smoking bill next week.

"I am just seeking every opportunity I can to denormalize smoking and to try to put it out of the reach of kids," Mr. Gennaro said. "I've lost family members to lung cancer and I've seen what happens."

If enacted, smoking in cars with riders under the age of 18 would join a growing list of activities barred by the city, including making too much noise at night, serving trans fats in restaurants, and allowing students to carry cell phones in school.

Mayor Bloomberg, who has spearheaded worldwide anti-tobacco initiatives, used the health risks associated with second-hand smoke to argue for a ban on smoking in bars.

A spokesman for Mr. Bloomberg, Stuart Loeser, declined to comment, saying the mayor had not yet seen the bill.

When asked in January about a similar proposal in Rockland County, Mr. Bloomberg said people should have the right to smoke in their own cars, but "if it's a child in the car, who doesn't have the ability to speak up and protect themselves, then society does start to have an interest."

While he admitted he didn't know how such a proposal would be enforced, the mayor said, "We do have a responsibility to provide a health environment for our children and I would just urge anybody, if you have children at home, don't smoke at home, don't smoke in your car with your child; you really are damaging your child's health."

Mr. Gennaro's proposal calls for fines of $200 to $400 for a first smoking violation, $500 to $1,000 for a second violation in a single year, and between $1,000 and $2,000 for a third violation in a year. The New York Police Department would get the task of enforcing the law.

In Rockland County, which in June approved a measure to ban smoking in cars with minors, critics called the law an invasion of privacy and a violation of personal liberties. Mr. Gennaro dismissed those arguments.

"Boo-hoo," he said. "You can't subject kids to 43 carcinogens and 250 poisonous chemicals and claim privacy. Get over it. Their right to privacy doesn't extend so far as to poisoning kids."

A child who spends one hour in a very smoky room is inhaling as many dangerous chemicals as if he or she smoked 10 or more cigarettes, according to the Mayo Clinic.

A U.S. Surgeon General's report from 2006 found there is sufficient evidence to infer "a causal relationship" between secondhand smoke exposure from parental smoking and lower respiratory illnesses in infants and children.

The founder of Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment, Audrey Silk, said the proposal is an example of government overreach and should be considered part of an alarming trend that affects smokers and nonsmokers alike.

"Smoking bans are a symptom of a greater problem with our government, that they can come in and regulate all kinds of lifestyle choices because they've deemed it improper," she said. "It could be anything."

A lawyer and former executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, Norman Siegel, said the proposal is "very intrusive," and noted that to withstand judicial challenges, at a minimum the city would have to show that second-hand smoke in cars has a negative health effect of minors.

The Rockland County legislator who sponsored the county's bill on smoking in cars, Connie Coker, said there's no reason why the government shouldn't be able regulate smoking in cars, as it already regulates cell phone use while driving and requires car seats for young children.

"It's not your castle," she said. "Your car is out in the world."

Ms. Silk said that if the bill were approved, there would be no reason the government wouldn't try to regulate the number of cookies parents could give their children.

"If they can come into our car, then they can come into our home," she said. "And everybody should be afraid of this, not just because of smoking."


Correction from August 16, 2007:

A causal relationship was found between secondhand smoke exposure from parental smoking and lower respiratory illnesses in infants and children, according to a Surgeon General's report. The nature of the relationship was misstated in an article on page 1 of yesterday's New York Sun.


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By invading private property--a car-- with their despicable fraud,these nazis are one step away from invading the home. They should... [MORE]

joe Camel 

Aug 15, 2007 05:49

Cars are NOT private property when used on public roadways. Driving is a right, not a privilege. I say, break... [MORE]

Marilyn M 

Aug 15, 2007 16:50

My mother used to be seriously addicted to cigarettes. She didn't stop smoking in the car which was OK so... [MORE]

Cooltruth 

Aug 16, 2007 14:34

The obvious purpose of this proposal is to establish a precedent for invading the home. If nothing can be done... [MORE]

Ed 

Aug 15, 2007 06:27

Once again our hard earned tax dollars are at work, in a body of government that finds itself governing the... [MORE]

m don 

Aug 15, 2007 08:56

In high school, the book that scared the hell out of me the most was '1984'. Orwell was prescient indeed. It... [MORE]

Rockerz 

Aug 15, 2007 15:32

I don't smoke but let me just say that you keep banning smoking here there and everywhere and one day... [MORE]

Mark T 

Aug 15, 2007 09:29

Even though I'm a smoker, I feel this proposal is fantastic! I feel so ashamed that I didn't think of... [MORE]

John 

Aug 15, 2007 09:34

Ah, another police state venture. Please big government watch over all of us. NOT. [MORE]

doober 

Aug 15, 2007 09:43

I grew up with a smoking parent who smoked in the home and car. That parent is now 89 years... [MORE]

Terry 

Aug 15, 2007 09:55

Oh my gosh, what next? Will they be coming into homes to make sure you don't smoke with your... [MORE]

Caroline 

Aug 15, 2007 20:34

I know that this may be seen as interfering with parental responsibilities. However, if parents don't care about their children's... [MORE]

Haile Rivera 

Aug 15, 2007 10:02

It's about time! It's one thing if you want to kill yourself, but to harm your child for your own... [MORE]

Chris 

Aug 15, 2007 10:45

You'd think aftet the fabrication of WMD's that people would seriously look at the "facts" provided by our government...Second hand... [MORE]

MArk DeVoe 

Aug 15, 2007 10:55

If we are going to go down this road---then lets go all the way. Fat children are being abused by... [MORE]

Annie 

Aug 15, 2007 20:02

Huckabee did that in Arkansas two years ago. [MORE]

Paul 

Aug 15, 2007 11:13

There hasn't been a single successful secondhand smoke law suit proving injury. The correlation factor between secondhand smoke and disease... [MORE]

Mike 

Aug 15, 2007 11:13

I used to remember when I lived in a free country! [MORE]

Tom 

Aug 15, 2007 11:15

to those who don't think a totalitarian regime can't happen here in the United States, look to New York City... [MORE]

JohnnyG 

Aug 15, 2007 11:34

And NYC is a long way from being finished. Think about it: banning smoking in the home with minors present...a... [MORE]

Marilyn M 

Aug 15, 2007 17:01

How DARE they tell us we can't poison our children? [MORE]

Michael 

Aug 15, 2007 22:15

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Steve 

Aug 15, 2007 11:52

I don't smoke and I think it is a disgusting habit and If I did smoke I would never in... [MORE]

hydra-calm 

Aug 15, 2007 12:20

For especially the last 45 years, no one spoke up when Narcs busted law-abiding people smoking a little pot or... [MORE]

Mark 

Aug 15, 2007 12:21

She states "Their right to privacy doesn't extend so far as to poisoning kids." However, apparently what it does extend... [MORE]

Non Sense 

Aug 15, 2007 12:27